Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

I was ------ around with a couple bins and stuff and I can't figure out what the big difference in low vs. high maps? I talked to someone who makes "basemaps" for people and he said that he's not sure, but he only uses the low maps and that's all he needs. ???
So if I want to learn how to tune this jazz I have to figure out what I'm doing. I would think it would have to do with the low throttle and high throttle settings, but now you have two full maps for fuel to tune and two for ignition.

I need tips.

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

low map is when vtec is not engaged
high map is when vtec has engaged.

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

raise the vtec point to an rpm higher than your cutoff or disable vtec so you won't hit vtec and tune the lo map. bring the vtec point back down to a point lower than you think you need vtec to kick in and then tune the hi map. the best way to set your vtec point is on a dyno, but 4.5k-5.5k would be a good baseline to start.

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listen to scotty he has a more complete version of what you want.

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Who is this basemap maker? Let's behead him for not knowing the difference between high and low cam maps.

Seriously...its Kevin isnt it :P

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Perfect. I'm gonna be running the dx, so I won't even need it. The basemap maker also told me to start off with the stock gsr bin because I couldn't get the po6 stock to open. But if I just leave the hi map out of it, than I'll be all good. I guess the hi ignition map is for the same thing?

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yea

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it depends on the version of Uberdata you are using. 1.7 had problems with the stockLS.bin not working, but if you're using a version of UD prior to 1.7 i'd recommend using the LS bin as it is for non-vtec motors. Also I believe there are some scalar differences between the gsr and ls maps.

ps, you're opening either the ls bin or the gsr bin, and then just importing the p06.bin, right? Uberdata can only "open" bins that are based on integra code, and then you can import whatever bin you want into that.

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

I believe we opened the stock gsr, and then tried to import the po6?
There were two imports listed as 16> and 16< but I didn't know what all that was about.

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i hope this isn't our one and only 'cray91', i know you guys are buddies which is what leads me to believe it's him, if so, i hope your not chipping peoples ecu's and don't even know the diff. between high and lo maps cray :-\

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The basemap maker told me only "the one" could open the door made of light.

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lol, get a new 'basemap' maker :P

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Kevin, this wasn't Cray, but it was someone on hmt that I didn't want to throw the name out because the "bash any and all competition" rule is in full effect it seems. I'm just trying to learn about this ---- just like you did before you became god.


Settle down before I have to come over there. ;)

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

ok, it was me. I didn't remember vtach and all that type r stuff.

most of those basemaps that you get when you dl uber really suck, I just downloaded other ones from different places and my car started, so I guess I'm a winner.

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Stevemode just use my 1.66 maps to use for a basemap. Then insert the values into 1.7 or 1.8 and retune. My map is dyno tuned. It will distort in 1.7 but you can just retune. Its on Chris's site. http://www.-------------/bins/index.p...&order=rating&

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I will be dyno tuning a 1.8 version next week sometime hopefully.

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Yeah, I will probably use your tune because it's just too easy not too, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't learn all I can to understand what's done to my car and how to change it if needed. That's why I'm here.

But really, if I opened the gsr and didn't use the hi maps, would it really make that much of a difference? I would disable vtec and tune on the low maps. Same as the ls would, huh?

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Yeah pretty much. Just disable VTEC items.

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Damn, not even god knew I could do it that way. :P

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Well...if he is selling his "services" on HMT...god help the first person that blows something because of it.

I believe its all gravy...but when it comes to ECUs, you MUST know what you are doing. Thats why there are those of us who are still around...and those of us who aren't. (Or those who gave up for one reason or another)

To all those out there learning from this thread...unless you are planning to learn what it takes to do your own chipping and tuning...make sure you choose someone who is going to help you out before, during and AFTER when sending out your ECU them please.

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This wasn't someone that offers services here, just someone that claims they know what they are doing.



That's why I'm here asking these questions. :P

So if I CAN tune a dx with the gsr bin with the vtec ---- turned off, than what's all the -----blasting for? ???

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

Steve, got a wideband yet? If not i'm thinking of selling my Zeitronix... lemme know

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I don't have a wideband, but I got people. ;) (can't right now)

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I am never in this forum, so I just saw this.

Kevin you doubtn' my mad rare JDM tunning techniques?? ;)
you called me the "one and only", I never knew you cared Kev.


Also, I gotta get a new laptop so steve can owe me for tunning his ride when he turbo's it. I already chipped his ECU the other day. Nice to do a PO6, and not have to convert it to VTEC.

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

So nobody liked my joke about the matrix and the key maker?

I thought it was funny... :(

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It was kinda funny.

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very scary stuff there.

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Well, reading the whole post you'd see I'm running a straight dx, which doesn't have VTaK, so if the high maps are for the VTIZZACK, then it shouldn't be all that scary. :P

Re:Low vs. High maps (Uberdata)
 

i figured that high and low was common sense. i would be scare cause that part is easy to figure out just wondering what else homeboy dont know.

how much?