cloud

not true. I've never had a problem.

wiring has nothing to do with. he would have weird random issues and or throw code if it was wiring. possibly not even start. and what's so hacked up about the engine build cause he used a head from a 96-00 DX what would have been right, getting the same head? clearly you've never heard of a mpfi swap,mini-me or ls vtec.

Inquisition

Congrats, you've never had a problem. Maybe you actually picked parts that work well together. First of all, obd2 D-series heads blow dick. They are awful and complicate things because of their retarded timing. Running anything but a OBD2 ECU or a tuned/chipped OBD1 ECU, you are going to be eating ---- with a spoon out of someones ***. If you want to throw random parts together, you have to match certain parts together. People that do those standard swaps have some idea what parts work together, but a lot of times they put parts together that don't work and the car runs like ----. Example, idiots using P30 ECUs on LS/Vtecs. They wonder what is wrong and don't understand that .2L of extra displacement doesn't need more fuel. Or throwing a P72 ECU on a B16. You will overfuel the car. There are compatibility issues with this setup clearly. Talk to tuners who deal with poor people. They assume they can throw any part together and make it work because they bolt together. Fact is, they often don't and if you can get them to work together it is at the expense of a lot of time and money. He's probably spent more on bullshit parts and gas than it would have cost to get an OBD0/1 head, matching wiring harness, and ecu.

cloud

why do EK heads sucks? y8 mini-mes have more compression and HP then a6's. The timing has nothing to do with the head. you think maybe the timing has to do with emissions?? The y8 I had, brought from some kid, had an oiling issue that had nothing to do with the timing. there's has to be a reason why they run less timing. ----, I ran a y8 in a ED with a a6 ecu and a buddy club v-tech controller with no problems.

clearly he not exactly throwing random parts at his car. It just sounds like a mpfi w/ a y7 head me.


+1 for using a bunch of different parts.

Inquisition

Y8's run a base timing of 12*. Because their cam gear is a tooth different than obd1, their timing maps are completely different. Look at the difference in the timing maps. Look how much ignition advance Y8s and 7s run. It is completely different than OBD1/0 D-series heads. They are bastards to get to run right and suck at making over 200whp. You clearly have no experience on the matter and just have read the wrong internet ramblings. Go on pgmfi.org or honda-tech and do a search people cursing their OBD2 D-series heads and how magically everything is better once they move to an OBD1 head. You're just another idiot that thinks if stuff bolts together it works fine. You clearly are another hack Honda kid that throws parts together and it works well enough so you think it works. The same people driving around in ---- suspension all over the road because they had to get that 2" drop. Meanwhile if they just left in good working OEM suspension their car would be faster, handle better and overall drive much better.

cloud

ok, so what the difference between a y8 head and a z6, the combustion chamber. you can say that combustion chamber sucks but thats the only difference. I've ran so much ignition advance. have you seen a pm7 map compared to a pm6 map. ok, the stock timing maps, how cares. use a chipped ecu and tune it.

actually I do have experience. y8 head and y8 motor in a ED. I just tune it with a chipped obd0 ecu.

yes, I think stuff bolt together and it works fine. you should see the parts I came up with on my turbo kit.

your orginal statements are all you have to use the same wiring harness, ecu, block, etc. which is impossible anyway. cause you'd have to switch in the underdash harness too. By you your logic obd1 conversion, is hack. obd0 civic's with dpfi, what are you going to do, not do the mpfi swap and switch both enging and underdash harness and get the whole a6 motor instead of just doing the mpfi swap.

clearly your not looking at exactly what a part is. what is actually does, or what exactly is different about it. This wouldn't even be a site and everybody would be using greddy turbo kits.

78NOVA

ok first off the pissing contest needs to end. i dont want your help if all your gonna do is bitch at one another. and the car runs great. currently now that ive done what a recommended honda guru told me to, ive got about 60 miles on about 1 1/2 gallon of fuel. now that the timing issue is somewhat fixed the car runs like a champ. tomorrow im really gonna test it though by driving out of town for an hour. results should be good i hope.

cloud

did you adjust the ignition timing or cam timing?

78NOVA

what i did was i replaced the cam gear with the b2 cam gear and reset the intitial timing via crank shaft and piston at tdc. then cam timing with the b2 cam gear at the proper setting. so far no smoke, pulls great, and gas millage is so far been extended.

78NOVA

73 miles and 2 gallons of gas!!!! i think i might have finally fixed this bitch!!! will find out today as i do a nice run to dearborn, on how highway mileage is good.

Inquisition

Cloud, you filthy ******, do you have anything to say to me? I thought I didn't know what I was talking about.

For the future, the OP could have probably resolved this issue with ECU tuning and proper timing synch but OBD2 heads still blow dick and everyone should stay away from them.