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Old 05-30-2008, 06:56 PM
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hey guys, notice this place is where people who actually tune their cars hang, so im wondering how many out there use the LM-1 from innovate.

initially i was really happy with the unit, i tune megasquirt in the NW area, an have probably dont more than 15 cars over the past 3-4 years. been using the lm-1 the whole time. most of the time it work flawlessly. but recently i have been having nothing but problems.

they are not huge, un-fixable issue, but ------- a they are a pain when im out tuning an they just stop working. im wondering if its how many times ive used it, maybe im too rough on em?

first thing that would happen is he screen would just freak out, show crazy afr's 22:1 an up an flash back to the regular numbers i was seeing. after that it popped an Error 6 code i believe, could not reset the box, sent it in an got a replacement.

so while i was having that probelm, i borrowed an LM-1 from a shop owner im good friends with. no this box keeps popping Error 4 codes (open element i believe it says). try to reset it, nothing, un-plug an re plug in the 02, etc etc. nothing works. but a few days later, with the same cord an same sensor, it will work fine for about an hour or so, but then it pops up with the same error.

so it works, but its really not that reliable anymore. i replaced the sensor probably a year ago an that helped for a while. but i thought these sensors would be good for way longer than a year or two. i never use my sensors wth race gas, they are always installed in a bung, not clamed to the tailpipe etc. all sensors (2 now) an lm-1's (2) are stored inside my house 100% of the time unless being used.

Anybody else experiance similar issues regularly like this? the box just seems very finiky to me for a damn near $400 setup..
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:31 PM
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I just bought one, so I got no info for ya.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:03 PM
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Bosch sensors are fairly fragile. I would say I replace my sensor every 10-15 cars...when it starts to bug out like that, generally it is the sensor.

If the threads are rusted or poor that can ruin a sensor, lots of condensation in an exhaust can ruin them as well. If you bang them around, drop on the floor...all of that can shorten the life of the sensor.

In the same car though, properly tuned and in the right position, they can last a while...they are an OEM sensor.
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Old 06-02-2008, 05:07 AM
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i hate these widebands thire too fragile yet cant live with out it
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo4life
i hate these widebands thire too fragile yet cant live with out it
just like ----- but you still beat that up don't ya ??
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Old 06-02-2008, 06:19 PM
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hellya just like women cant live with them cant live with out them
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:01 PM
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i try to really be carefull with the sensors, but the def do have a bit of a rough life going from car to car like a durty hooker..

ill replace the sensor an see if that works a bit more reliable. i get a good hour an 30min or so, then it wigs out, reset, then error code 4 pops up. bout 20min later it will work again for another 20min or so...still have to send the other one in to get fixed though haha
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VWralley
istill have to send the other one in to get fixed though haha
Where?

To Whom?
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:04 AM
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Innovate perhaps...if you bought it from a reputable dealer, they are very good about getting things fixed/replaced.
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