Tom-Guy

It's hard to find a good tuner in America, and the nearest dragstrip is an hour and a half drive at 75 mph.

J&S is a really high functioning band-aid, but it's still a band-aid. You can probably use it's knock detection function to tune your ignition timing, though. Just remember to take out a couple extra degrees even after knock goes away.

leed

Is it just me? When I look at the file name in your pic, all I can see is NIG55?

I prefer map names like: pingsalittle.bin, dseriestenpoundswillturnyouout.bin, standardebaychip.bin, Stevespantyripper2.bin, BillsweetboostcutFinal.bin, -----timing.bin, massivesensordisable.bin, stunna9700.bin, coldcutcomboFinal.bin, GSR3barRinglandCrusherOL.bin, D16pistonslapperbase1.bin, EGwheezeFinalOL.bin,SS_sweetride.bin, ------bullshit3.bin, 5500pingmaster.bin

Jesus christ, I do an F3 search for *.bin to find some of my better map names and it comes up w/ over 1300 32k .bin files. Anyone want a shitty base map? only ran once, hahaha.

Oh, and do what JD suggested. Check out the DET-cans thread on HT. Itll be the best thing you ever did for your car.

NNBD

the name is in dutch my friend It says, its a xeno bin, with 10% fuel added in boost, with my own ign map

Tom-Guy

Haha. I'm not nearly as creative, but I do have a couple like Coleisahardcore----------er.bin, WesHellacious.bin, ihateyoutravisfender7.bin, and ----.bin.

NNBD

hey im trying to make a new bin with the 14 degrees retard @10psi as you said. problem is, turbo-edit doens't retard it more than -5,40 (i fill in -1 or -2 degrees per psi boost, nothing really changes).

By 14 degrees @ 10 psi, do you mean that the colums @ 10psi say -14 ? Im a bit confused.

NNBD

oke i just tried another bin, max boost retard (not needed cause i was running it with the turbo "unhooked".
The damn ****** just keeps driving like absolute ----. low rpm...it just doesn't pull and still the rattle (probably detonation) is still there (no boost, 450cc injectors and fuel and ign maps as stock as possible).
Also i cannot REV it higher than 4500rpm when standing still (how can this be, didn't change anything regarding the rev limit).

I just can't figure out whats wrong so im going to rebuild my car to stock ....going to try and mount it next spring again when its less cold and i have more time.

Some things i think could be the problem.
1. injectors ?? maybe something is wrong with them, i do get enough fuel though so i wouldn't think so.
2. Fuel / ign maps. My stock ECU says PM7, but when i add a stock PM7 chip, (copied into the NG55 bin)...it is way leaner than normal (also tested this before i went turbo or added other injectors).
3. ECU problems (broken in some way ??)
4 something else, probably something that i just can't figure out

Tom-Guy

Not -14, lock timing at a max of 14 for the 9+ psi columns (OBD0 MAP sensors don't read past 9.25 psi).

What exactly do you mean "turbo unhooked"? That could be part of the problem.

No low end power could be ignition timing way off, or cam timing way off. I mean to say I think that's your problem.

4500 rpm when sitting still = FTL.

NNBD

oke first..what do you mean with FTL ? I could rev it stock to 7300 rpm, standing stil or driving, didn't matter

About the base timing, before i added the turbo i had set my timing as stock using a strobe with digital rpm readings..the lot. I Know that was perfect when it was stock.

It could well be the timing in the ign map..i just can't figure out what it should be...PM7 is PM7 right ? my engine runs on a PM7 ECU...but the US ones were probably different just my luck

With the turbo unhooked i mean wastegate wide open, and charge pipes disconnected. running the engine as stock as possible (just 450cc injectors). Tried to make a bin that comes as close to stock as possible. Seems that the stock PM7.bin as on turbo-edit.org isn't the same as my stock PM7 bin. runs like crap.

Tom-Guy

You should read the stickies on TE, and do basic research. If it's a crisp BAH BAH BAH BAH BAH sound, like a revlimit, then the FTL is doing what it's been set to do. You downloaded a .bin instead of creating your own basemap, and now you're stuck with a 4500 rpm FTL until you learn how to push buttons on the keyboard.


Yeah, but you could have set the timing at higher than the 16 degree region of ignition timing on your map, which would result in your timing being effectively retarded. Was the distributor centered, or spun off to one side?

You could have jumped time - DOHC ZC are wierd about that, especially if they backfire or the like when playing about with tunes. Stuff happens that may have *nothing* to do with your turbo install, or everything about your monkey friend leaning on something during the install. ---- happens, you gotta deal with it.

There is no USDM PM7. Any of the timing maps you find online labelled PM7 will do, so you don't have to worry about that.

Has the turbo started puking oil from being overspun yet?

A large exhaust leak at the manifold will kill off power, too. If you have external wastegate it'll definitely kill power, internal wastegate I can't say what it'd do to your bottom end power because results will be all over the place.

NNBD

oke well i'll check the ign timing tomorrow. see if its still good. if so, ill probably bring it back stock for a while since i won't have much time soon and the winter is coming. (I don't have a garage).

I did fiddle around with rev limits earlier when the car was still non turbo (just to get a hang of turbo-edit before going turbo).
though i find it very strange that the car won't rev higher than 4500 rpm when im not driving, but while driving its going up to 7000 as it should.
I'll look into that FTL thing....completely new of me.

as for the timing, it should be 16 degrees as you say, but the stock PM7 say 17.8 or something like that (don't know exactly by heart).
I assume the PM6 like many USDM cars have have to be set on 16 degrees, but the Pm7 cars on 17,8 or not ? just exactly like in the stock bin at the idle region ?


PS: about the oil puking, i only drove it hard for a few seconds...the rest i didn't came above 2500 rpm. To be honest i care more about my engine then about the turbo...i have another one lying around..