david_jones001

I am just learning about tuning with uberdata, and sense a wideband is ------- expensive, and i dont have a laptop, how many of u just took your car out and kept a eye on the a/g gauge and then went back to the house and chaged ur setting buy burning a new chip and so on, i know this whould take forever but i got forever so

93turbo16

No one, unlesss you feel like picking up some ---- off the road.

david_jones001

i mean after u already have a basemap, and then taking it out

93turbo16

basemaps are no where near tuned.

david_jones001

ok ok i know this, but im saying, if u have a basemap, then u go out and drive a little and keep a eye on ur air fule gauge and see where ur lean and ----, then go back to the house, and tune on uberdata , burn chip, take it out and try it from there

93turbo16

If you trust your self with a gauge that has about 90% error. I pulled that number out of my butt, but seriously it reads like 14-1.9 a/f and that is about it. So the answer is no.

david_jones001

ok so pretty much the only way to street tune is with a wide band

93turbo16

You are catching on.

Honestly don't even try it with a narrow band, you aren't doing yourself any good.

sohc_mshue

Narrowband AF lightshow gauges are the ---- yO! Its like you have a rave going on in your car all the time

Sikocivic

I tried doing it that way last fall and it just kept getting worse every time I burned a new chip. You really can't tell if you just a little lean or WAY to lean. I would find someone with a wideband or take it to a dyno.