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waffe 05-23-2009 04:36 AM

Going nucking pucks over ENGINE MANAGEMENT
 
O.k so I am turbo charging a 92 accord . It has a f22a motor. I am planning on changing the motor down the road.. some time after this one gives up the ghost. I have already ordered a cheap complete turbo kit arriving tomorrow. Its a start, figured I could upgrade as I go. But just needed a start. Didn't know about engine management till I started doing a little more research. After reading everything I can get my hands on for a week, I am about to give up. so I am asking for help.

I plan on running minimum amount of boost. 7psi or so, I am only looking for 170-190 hp, maybe even less, a smooth idle and drivable car. pump gas

Would using a missing link and the synapse fpr-fmu work? Do I need to run larger injectors with this setup? Would it even work well or at all?

If someone has a different Idea that could work my limit for a ems is around $300-$800 preferable under the first figure stated. That and know the locations to all junk yards with in 100 miles of here.

Hows this... I don't want to loose hp from stock .....Ive read the threads on this. Now I'm just asking for a little advice. ???

BRIAN MP5T 05-23-2009 07:07 AM

SDS EIC2

http://sdsefi.com/eic.html

txdohczc 05-23-2009 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by BRIAN MP5T (Post 1272371)
SDS EIC2

SDS EM-4: EIC

horrible idea
you need to get a p06 from a dx civic and chip it with dsm 450cc injectors. anything else is a waste of money time and an engine when ever you blow it up by not having any timing control or proper fuel control

waffe 05-23-2009 01:22 PM

What about the missing link and fpr fmu from synapse? Could I retain the stock computer with that and run larger injectors?

Is it that the stock ecu does not have the right fuel curve for a turbo? That kit you sent me looked interesting but nearly as expensive as a whole ems. 400 or so for the controller and then all the hardware needed. Or am I missing something? The kits run at a little over a $1000

txdohczc 05-23-2009 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by waffe (Post 1272439)
What about the missing link and fpr fmu from synapse? Could I retain the stock computer with that and run larger injectors?

Is it that the stock ecu does not have the right fuel curve for a turbo? That kit you sent me looked interesting but nearly as expensive as a whole ems. 400 or so for the controller and then all the hardware needed. Or am I missing something? The kits run at a little over a $1000

listen you do not use bigger injectors with an fmu. fmus suck balls. the stock ecu will not compinsate for boost. chip a p06 ($125) and buy some dsm 450cc ($55). with the chipped ecu and dsm 450s you now have a full stamdalone fuel system with upgraded injectors for less than $200 so dont even think about anything else that added injectors ---- is stupid and way out dated especially for hondas

waffe 05-23-2009 10:44 PM

Ok,any special place I might Send out to get it chipped or just any one I can find and talk to. Now I am getting lazy on this one but do you know what cars had a p06 ecu and another that had dsm 450 injectors? So I can go junk yard hopping after monday, memorial day.

txdohczc 05-24-2009 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by waffe (Post 1272490)
Ok,any special place I might Send out to get it chipped or just any one I can find and talk to. Now I am getting lazy on this one but do you know what cars had a p06 ecu and another that had dsm 450 injectors? So I can go junk yard hopping after monday, memorial day.

i dont know why im going to spoon feed you this information but here it is in plain and simple
1. p06 from a 92-95 civic dx
2. xenocron will chip it for you goto his website Xenocron Tuning: Fuel Management and DIY Tuning Resource Center for Honda and Acura Performance - Hondata, eCtune, Neptune, Crome, TurboEdit, Uberdata
3. dsm 450cc injectors are from a turbo eclipse with a manual transmission

waffe 05-24-2009 02:30 AM

Thanks, I will get ahold of xencron here. They look better then people I found on ebay. I'll post back when I get this complete.

Scott-EP 05-24-2009 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by txdohczc (Post 1272440)
that added injectors ---- is stupid and way out dated especially for hondas

i told the synapse guy at PRI that the missing link was outdated and he did the puppy dog head turn like he was confused. it was hilarious. i wonder if he thought i was wrong, or just didnt understand english too well. he was asian and i had a hard time understanding him.

http://www.thefourpawsresort.com/Confused_dog.jpg

txdohczc 05-24-2009 01:59 PM

well you can spend 160 on a missing link and fmu or you can send your ecu to be chipped for 75 and have control of timing and other misc things like a 2step and rev limiter


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