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Old 05-23-2009, 04:36 AM
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O.k so I am turbo charging a 92 accord . It has a f22a motor. I am planning on changing the motor down the road.. some time after this one gives up the ghost. I have already ordered a cheap complete turbo kit arriving tomorrow. Its a start, figured I could upgrade as I go. But just needed a start. Didn't know about engine management till I started doing a little more research. After reading everything I can get my hands on for a week, I am about to give up. so I am asking for help.

I plan on running minimum amount of boost. 7psi or so, I am only looking for 170-190 hp, maybe even less, a smooth idle and drivable car. pump gas

Would using a missing link and the synapse fpr-fmu work? Do I need to run larger injectors with this setup? Would it even work well or at all?

If someone has a different Idea that could work my limit for a ems is around $300-$800 preferable under the first figure stated. That and know the locations to all junk yards with in 100 miles of here.

Hows this... I don't want to loose hp from stock .....Ive read the threads on this. Now I'm just asking for a little advice.
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Originally Posted by BRIAN MP5T View Post
SDS EIC2

SDS EM-4: EIC
horrible idea
you need to get a p06 from a dx civic and chip it with dsm 450cc injectors. anything else is a waste of money time and an engine when ever you blow it up by not having any timing control or proper fuel control
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:22 PM
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What about the missing link and fpr fmu from synapse? Could I retain the stock computer with that and run larger injectors?

Is it that the stock ecu does not have the right fuel curve for a turbo? That kit you sent me looked interesting but nearly as expensive as a whole ems. 400 or so for the controller and then all the hardware needed. Or am I missing something? The kits run at a little over a $1000
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What about the missing link and fpr fmu from synapse? Could I retain the stock computer with that and run larger injectors?

Is it that the stock ecu does not have the right fuel curve for a turbo? That kit you sent me looked interesting but nearly as expensive as a whole ems. 400 or so for the controller and then all the hardware needed. Or am I missing something? The kits run at a little over a $1000
listen you do not use bigger injectors with an fmu. fmus suck *****. the stock ecu will not compinsate for boost. chip a p06 ($125) and buy some dsm 450cc ($55). with the chipped ecu and dsm 450s you now have a full stamdalone fuel system with upgraded injectors for less than $200 so dont even think about anything else that added injectors ---- is stupid and way out dated especially for hondas
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Ok,any special place I might Send out to get it chipped or just any one I can find and talk to. Now I am getting lazy on this one but do you know what cars had a p06 ecu and another that had dsm 450 injectors? So I can go junk yard hopping after monday, memorial day.
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Originally Posted by waffe View Post
Ok,any special place I might Send out to get it chipped or just any one I can find and talk to. Now I am getting lazy on this one but do you know what cars had a p06 ecu and another that had dsm 450 injectors? So I can go junk yard hopping after monday, memorial day.
i dont know why im going to spoon feed you this information but here it is in plain and simple
1. p06 from a 92-95 civic dx
2. xenocron will chip it for you goto his website Xenocron Tuning: Fuel Management and DIY Tuning Resource Center for Honda and Acura Performance - Hondata, eCtune, Neptune, Crome, TurboEdit, Uberdata
3. dsm 450cc injectors are from a turbo eclipse with a manual transmission
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Thanks, I will get ahold of xencron here. They look better then people I found on ebay. I'll post back when I get this complete.
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Originally Posted by txdohczc View Post
that added injectors ---- is stupid and way out dated especially for hondas
i told the synapse guy at PRI that the missing link was outdated and he did the puppy dog head turn like he was confused. it was hilarious. i wonder if he thought i was wrong, or just didnt understand english too well. he was asian and i had a hard time understanding him.

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well you can spend 160 on a missing link and fmu or you can send your ecu to be chipped for 75 and have control of timing and other misc things like a 2step and rev limiter
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