Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Here's the deal guys. I will be going on Tuesday(Aug. 10th) afternoon for some sets of Vitara pistons. If you want a set i need your Payment for Today or no later than Tomorrow Morning(August 5th) at 11am Eastern time. That way i can transfer all the payments all at the same time from my Paypal account to my bank account and then proceed to go and buy the sets. Paypal transfers take 3 business days(not including Sat and Sunday)so thats why i can have the transfer cleared for Tuesday.
**This is the only trip for pistons i will be doing this next week so the rest will have to wait till the following week. Get them while theyre in stock cause they sell out fast and there are a lot of ppl interested in them** What is included on this deal *1 Set of Suzuki Vitara replacement Pistons(Same ones ive been selling for a while,same ones i have in my car now), standard bore 75mm. * Wrist pins and clips. Pistons are Floating pin style ;) * 1 set of Piston Rings-->Hastings Rings Prices(Includes shipping and Paypal fees) To the USA---> $123 Canada--->$135 Worldwide-->I have to check shipping fees.Please contact me first. Pistons will be shipped Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation(USA only) so you will get a Tracking number. Paypal to---> ekhatchback99@hotmail.com Please provide your Username and which forum youre from as this thread will be posted in other places too. Here's a picture of the Pistons mounted on Eagle rods(not included of course). Those are My pistons,same ones i have on my car and same ones you'll be getting. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg Here's my Vouch Thread: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878830 I also have Vouches in Civichatchback.com, D-series.org. Any questions? Feel free to PM or Email me. Thanks |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Ill prolly be ordering on the next batch, seeing as how i cant now, and money order?
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
what willt he compression be on a dohc zc with these pistons?
and the ZC is a 75mm bore also correct? nathan |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
ill def. be in on the next batch.
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
I might be up for them! haha
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
im def interested, but not for a few weeks :( money is tight right now.
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Man.. i dont know the compression on the ZC but yes they will fit in the ZC as the bore is 75mm. The compression will depend on the head you use..I can probably take the compression height measurement when i get the next sets so you all can calculate the Compression ration on your motors.
I will make a similar post for the next batch. Posted by: SmokeShank Posted on: August 04, 2004, 09:51:39 PM im def interested, but not for a few weeks money is tight right now. |
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would these even be worth it to run with the stock rods?
i dont have the cash to buy eagle rods but is there some other rod i can use that is stronger than the zc? nathan |
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Originally Posted by ssl2k
would these even be worth it to run with the stock rods?
i dont have the cash to buy eagle rods but is there some other rod i can use that is stronger than the zc? nathan Well guys for this next week this is it. Any other payment i receive from now on must have to be for the next batch..Unless i can grab some exra sets. Ill let you guys know next week your tracking #( or those who paid.. and the others ill let you know when i have more sets. Thanks for looking |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
absolutely no machining needed to get these on stock d-series rods right? just hone and go? :)
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Originally Posted by crx88Si
absolutely no machining needed to get these on stock d-series rods right? just hone and go? :)
For D series rods into these piston NO machining is needed to put them on. |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
These pistons on a dohc ZC your looking around a 7.8c/r :-\
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Wow...thats ------- awesome...
will my car even ------ run with a CR of 7.8:1? I guess i will need to take my head in and have it shaved just a little bit right? along with having the block decked like a mofo... nathan |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Originally Posted by AbaZ
These pistons on a dohc ZC your looking around a 7.8c/r :-\
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
any idea what kind of compression in a z6?
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
I dont know exactly how to calculate it but if you want to do it... I took some measurements
Compression Height of the pistons is-->28.5cm Dish is 12.5CC (taken by another member) |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Originally Posted by fjt
I dont know exactly how to calculate it but if you want to do it... I took some measurements
Compression Height of the pistons is-->28.5cm Dish is 12.5CC (taken by another member) I think I'm in for the next batch. __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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I worked it out one day at work with the D series comp calculator and iirc I got below 8:1 with stock Z6 gasket.
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
I can vouch, I ordered some awhile back through the honda-tech group buy. Price was a little better then but I think he had under estimated shipping costs. Bump for a great seller and fast shipping
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Originally Posted by chiman72
Price was a little better then but I think he had under estimated shipping costs. Bump for a great seller and fast shipping
Thanks for the Vouch :) |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
so whats THE DOHC ZC will have lower compression compared to the SOHC A6 or ZC?
sounds like a deal!!!!!! but i dont know if i want that low of a compression rate! |
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Just use a y8 headgasket, and if thats not enough mill the head a little but i think the y8 gasket should be good.
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Just turn the boost up. ;) I'm thinking maybe deck the block and shave the head a bit, crank up the boost and call it a day. :)
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
I will be taking Payments for next batch on Wednesaday and Thursday(till 11am Eastern time).. I want to ship out first the ones for this week so i make sure i dont owe to anyone.
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this should be a sticky
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I dont know why people are getting all excited about these pistons. #1 they are suzuki, suzuki makes some of the shittiest engines known to man kind. #2 these pistons are not forged, they are normal cast pistons. #3 Big ------- deal if they can hold 15psi, I'm sure they can with 8.5 or whatever compression. Hondas are dogs with low compression and anything in the 8's or lower is just stupid.
What you are getting is basically a stock set of pistons that are lower compression. With all the great tuning software out there such as uberdata/turboedit tuning a 9.1 c/r engine and even a 10.1 c/r engine is not difficult. As far as these going in a ZC, that would be really stupid. If you put D16a6 Pistons in a ZC you will get a 7.8 c/r. Now these pistons have a huge ass dish way bigger than a PM6 piston, so your looking at around 7.5 if not lower. ZC's have a 44cc's of space in each cylinder which is the most out of any D-series. Hence why the stock PM7 pistons are domed. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg Btw, good luck with your block guard ::) Not trying to be a dick, but just laying out the facts. Jeff |
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Well i guess theyre not good huh?...When you can run 12.60@ 112mph for over a year on a Non Vtec coupe with Full interior and A/C and P/S hooked up with the Stock Honda OEM pistons Let me know..Ohh yeah..without Uberdata or Hondata..Just on the AFC which YOU know that its a cheap band aid for fuel/engine management.Hmmm you know what? by that time your OEM pistons ringlands will be broken(ouch).
Just so you get your fact straight: they are made from ac8a grade cast aluminum .its been recently introduced to the auto scene and is said to be 50% stronger than standard cast aluminum piston material.the ac8a grade aluminum tney are t-6 heat treated wich is very good for those of us who have these .if you ever read the book'maximum boost' by corky bell. in the part where they talk about turbo pistons they mention t-6 heat treated aluminum alloy as a good alternative to forged pistons! Ohh and By the way...Dont worry..These pistons are made to fit in the Suzuki but theyre NOT MADE by Suzuki so your "Shitty Suzuki making engines" coment does not applies here..Same as if i Buy some JE or CP 75mm pistons to drop on a Suzuki. These are not Suzuki OEM pistons. |
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lol, Actually I ran a 12.03 on stock cast pistons. Let me clarify something for you, I know what they are made out of, I did plenty of research on them awhile back. I assumed they were designed and made by suzuki, but I guess not. The fact they bring down the compression ratio so low on a honda is ridiciolus. I never said the pistons themselves were weak, 4g63's use the same kind of piston and can take lots of abuse but will break just like any cast piston.
I just remember reading one of your threads on honda-tech saying that they were forged and wanted to clarify things. |
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I was thinking the same thing as Abaz, if your lowering the compression this much, it will take more boost to make the same hp, correct? So running 15psi on 8.3:1 comp, is like running 10 on 9.5, (not exact, just ex.) right?
I'm not doubting, I just want to see some dyno #'s and more real world experience before I jump on the bandwagon. Any links? |
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No theyre not forged(thats what everyone claimed at first but no, theyre not) but there stronger than the average Cast pistons.
12.03 huh? Thats pretty good man.. but again i ask you again, in what vehicleand motor?.. No weight reduction? On a Coupe without Vtec(stock head and valvetrain) and with A/C hooked up? No Hondata,uberdata or any other programable ecu? If the answer is yes then thats F*ing impressive. Im talking about a car that with driver is for sure in the 2500lbs range.Driver alone is a chubby dude of 260lbs. Anyways..The pistons went out of stock AGAIN.. >:( ..Lol they didnt even lasted 2 weeks in stock..Im trying to find another place to get them. I dont want to make a whole issue about this..This is something that is done here and i thought i would let others know..The way i see it i prefer to run 12's with a 100+/- piston and not going into shock if they break rather than paying 400 for aftermarket forged pistons and also breaking them. I think this combo is a hell of a good bang for the buck. |
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Originally Posted by 90zcrex
I'm not doubting, I just want to see some dyno #'s and more real world experience before I jump on the bandwagon. Any links? |
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your right they are stock susuki cast pistons but they are def made better than the d series pistons,and also lower compresssion. both combinations allow you to run higher boost.
think of it this way,stock sleeves cant handle more than 16psi for too long, so if you dint sleeve your block these pistons are perfect since they are good up to 16psi.so y buy forged pistons on stock sleeves since you cant boost past 16psi. now if you have a sleeve block i say buying these pistons would be a waste,since good sleeves can handle way more than 16psi. |
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I think the sleeves give way at a horsepower level, not psi of boost.
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Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Originally Posted by hotintegranights
your right they are stock susuki cast pistons but they are def made better than the d series pistons,and also lower compresssion. both combinations allow you to run higher boost.
think of it this way,stock sleeves cant handle more than 16psi for too long, so if you dint sleeve your block these pistons are perfect since they are good up to 16psi.so y buy forged pistons on stock sleeves since you cant boost past 16psi. now if you have a sleeve block i say buying these pistons would be a waste,since good sleeves can handle way more than 16psi. thats a load of ---- ive seen 25psi on stock sleeves.. u just have to be tuned for it |
Re:Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
Originally Posted by chevy
Originally Posted by hotintegranights
your right they are stock susuki cast pistons but they are def made better than the d series pistons,and also lower compresssion. both combinations allow you to run higher boost.
think of it this way,stock sleeves cant handle more than 16psi for too long, so if you dint sleeve your block these pistons are perfect since they are good up to 16psi.so y buy forged pistons on stock sleeves since you cant boost past 16psi. now if you have a sleeve block i say buying these pistons would be a waste,since good sleeves can handle way more than 16psi. thats a load of ---- ive seen 25psi on stock sleeves.. u just have to be tuned for it exactly, people need to stop repeating what they hear.. unless you have tried it dont say ----, i personaly have helped out to boost over 20lbs on stock sleeves for a result of a little over 500 hp. |
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Originally Posted by AbaZ
lol, Actually I ran a 12.03 on stock cast pistons.
....im talking about doing it on a SOHC non Vtec on a 98 coupe man...Vitara pistons Wont fit a B20Vtec:P Of course youre gonna run 12.03 on a CRX with a B20 Vtec turbo..You dont even have AC or Power steering.. https://www.homemadeturbo.com/drag/july16/track2.jpg https://www.homemadeturbo.com/drag/july16/track1.jpg Dont try to fool me man >:( |
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^^^ welcome to last year
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Is this deal still going on? Can you get these things oversized??? I am putting it in a d16a1, which is basically a zc. But im going to end up with roughly 10 to 1 compression. How you ask? HEHE just wait until its done. Oh yes, and can anyone say 1.65 r/s >:D
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Re: Who wants Vitara Pistons for their SOHC turbo?
only comments I have about these pistons are as follow:
first there is alot of deburring that should be done prior to install..anyone heard of charge density.. second if you can afford it and it is pretty ------- cheap get the side skirts and tops coated something like swain tech , this will cost you an additional 120-175.00 depending on where and what coating you get.. because even after this they are still 150.00 cheaper than a forged set.. now I know they come with a teflon coating all ready but if any of you read up on the 2003-2004 mustang cobra aka terminator(my daily driver) you will know that the forged pistons in the mod motor have a teflon coating and have caused a 20% percent failure rate in these motors.. now if anybody wants to get there's coated here is the place I had my head,valves,pistons, and hf manifold done http://www.engineceramics.com/index.html |
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Hey guys, I bought some pistons off him last week, and I must say they are awesome quality and FJT is an awesome guy to deal with and most definetly gets my vouche, Great service, super fast shipping as well, the packaging was top notch and everything arrived in one piece.
These pistons with LS rods are amazing. https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...3/DVC00539.jpg |
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