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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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hello every one

i have problem and i hop u can help me
this is my story
im new in engine world but im learning and i have money
so i have a honda del sol 1993 and i like engine tuning

so first i bought B16 engine and after searching i bought :
valve set oversize 0.5 skunk2
dual valve springs skunk2
retainers skunk2
guide KMS
seals kms

and now the problem is camshafts
how i can chose my camshafts?
i want a best and strong cams for my engine
i see this camshafts

stage 1 IN. 0.469,264; EX. 0.433,259 skunk2
stage 2 IN. 0.489,275; EX. 0.469,270 skunk2
stage 3 IN. 0.504,272; EX. 0.469,280 skunk2

turbo 1 IN. 0.409,223; EX. 0.394,227 skunk2
turbo 2 IN. 0.433,231; EX. 0.417,236 skunk2

pro 1 IN. 0.496,264; EX. 0.469,264 skunk2
pro 2 IN. 0.504,270; EX. 0.473,276 skunk2
pro 3 IN. 0.512,277; EX. 0.488,284 skunk2

skunk2 camshafts so if i want buy from skunk i think i will buy a turbo cams
cuz i want buy a turbo after the camshafts but i dont know how i know the best
maybe the pro camshafts the best
and when i search i found ths best cams..i think
from http://www.camshaftshop.com/camshaft...onda-camshaft/
this what im talking about

part no: 176-G
Application: ALLMOTOR Drag, VTEC ELIMINATOR, to suit large capacity high compression B series. Special wide lobe core, uses outer lobes only. Comes with rocker spacers and oil control plate. requires skilled engine builder.
Approx RPM Range 6500-10500
Duration @ .016" Inlet 300 Exhaust 305 i dont know what thats meaning
Duration @ .050" Inlet 256 Exhaust 264 unknown 2
Valve Lift @ 1.55 Inlet .512" Exhaust .492"
Centerline @ Full Lift Inlet 102 Exhaust 102 unknown 3

and when i tell my friend about this he tell me
thats camshat not for turbo u cant bought it
and this site have turbo camshafts too
so i dont know how i can chose my cam and if i want buy it i want the best for my car

this it my plan
Honda del Sol Setup

1.Engine B16A
2.ECU
3.Transmission
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Engine B16A Setup
1.oversize +0.5mm valves.done valve springs.done titanium Retainers.done Guides.done seals.done
2.Camshafts. gears.
3.Sleeving Block. Stroker Kits
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Transmission
1.Stage 3 Clutches
2.Short shift
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Turbo
1.
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ECU
1.
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I want make my engine a serious tuning
so now im start and learning and ask about everything i hop u can help me
thanks and sorry for long message
Ghanim from kuwiat


Old Jul 27, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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wow. way too long of a post. look around at what other people are using. figure out what kind you want. its mostly trial and error. as long as you stay below a 250 or so cam, it will still be very streetable. if you go over that you kinda pushing the line cuz its going to kill low end power and you will always be in high rpms. but just do some more research.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryGeek
wow. way too long of a post. look around at what other people are using. figure out what kind you want. its mostly trial and error. as long as you stay below a 250 or so cam, it will still be very streetable. if you go over that you kinda pushing the line cuz its going to kill low end power and you will always be in high rpms. but just do some more research.
if i will look about people uses
i never do what i want
i need a high rpm cuz i want over 500hp maybe if i can just 700hp
i want drag with a serious cars like gallardo , ferrari or gtr
and if u say u cant i will tell u about my friend have a impreza 700hp
and no one can drag with him he drag with motorcycle and lamborghini`s
impreza 4 doors bigger of del sol
if u think when the del sol have over 500hp the impreza himself cant drag with me
im searching but i thing every one do what peopls do!
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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You have to watch, alot of cam's won't work with oversize valves. Larger valves is usually something that you do for an all-motor application, where headwork is pretty much the only way to squeeze out more power. If you look at alot of skunk2 cams, alot will say not for use with oversize valves due to the extremely high rpm range you would have to run in order to make good use of the cam. Larger valves = more mass that has to open and close at an extreme rate. Best bet is to stick to a longer duration cam for turbo...the longer the valves are open, the more forced air is compressed into the cylinder. Most long duration cams don't really have a higher than stock redline not because they won't go to those rpm's, just because they won't want to make any power on the extreme top. In order to make the power range you want, you're going to need alot more than just a set of cams...you're going to need alot of block work as well.
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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dont sleeve or stroke a b16
if u really wanna sleeve and stroke a b and u have money do it on a gsr based block (r blocks/gsr)
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravage70
dont sleeve or stroke a b16
if u really wanna sleeve and stroke a b and u have money do it on a gsr based block (r blocks/gsr)
There's no replacement for displacement
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Well, first of all i hope that you will have an experienced engine shop help you with this because it takes alot of planning and experience to build a reliable 500+HP setup. Secondly, theres no reason why we wouldn't believe that your friend has a 700hp subaru. Good luck keeping up with his 4wd goodness. It's gonna launch like a ----------er.
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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thanks all for reply

i think i found all my answers here
http://webcamshafts.com/main.html

just need time to learn and show
and about a gsr sleeving block, these is my first tuning so i want a medium tuning for more experience
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by q8delsol
thanks all for reply

i think i found all my answers here
http://webcamshafts.com/main.html

just need time to learn and show
and about a gsr sleeving block, these is my first tuning so i want a medium tuning for more experience
there is no such thing as medium tuning
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravage70
there is no such thing as medium tuning
i dont know the true spelling but i think (acshly = in the true)
i bought the b16 engine
so i cant buy another block when i have my block!!!
i dont want buy a b18 blcok and keep my new block out!!
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