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zex_cool 08-17-2006 10:20 AM

z1 head
 
ill be using the z1 head with the z6 block (vitara+tt rods) and a cosmetic hg to lower the comp. even more. question, how high can you rev the z1 head with stock valve train ?? and also is this a good idea ??

Slo_crx1 08-17-2006 10:25 AM

Re: z1 head
 
What's the stock redline on a z1 motor? That's usually a pretty good indication of how high you can spin your motor ;) Rpm's are generally limited to whatever the valvetrain can safely handle with honda motors. Usually the bottoms are balanced pretty well, and I've seen plenty of stock z6 bottoms that will take 8k on a daily basis. Again, it all depends on the head.

ProzacOverdose 08-17-2006 11:13 AM

Re: z1 head
 
Keep in mind......reving past 8k is cool but it doesn't mean you'll make power past that. Run it on a dyno. I've only seen a few D series making good power past 8k.

zex_cool 08-17-2006 11:21 AM

Re: z1 head
 

Originally Posted by slo_crx1
What's the stock redline on a z1 motor? That's usually a pretty good indication of how high you can spin your motor ;) Rpm's are generally limited to whatever the valvetrain can safely handle with honda motors. Usually the bottoms are balanced pretty well, and I've seen plenty of stock z6 bottoms that will take 8k on a daily basis. Again, it all depends on the head.

haha so like 6200 rpm ? b/c im reving my y7 to 7k w/o any problems YET.

ProzacOverdose 08-17-2006 11:28 AM

Re: z1 head
 
the stock valve train will be able to handle a bit more then what is restricted for them. But it doesn't mean the motor is still making power. Only a dyno will show you peak power through the rpms and the limits of you motor. You can take a redline of 6.2 and rev that motor to 8.9 no problem.....but all you need is one valve to float or miss....then click click click. Keep it safe at a safe rpm...then dyno it.

Slo_crx1 08-17-2006 03:03 PM

Re: z1 head
 

Originally Posted by ProzacOverdose
the stock valve train will be able to handle a bit more then what is restricted for them. But it doesn't mean the motor is still making power. Only a dyno will show you peak power through the rpms and the limits of you motor. You can take a redline of 6.2 and rev that motor to 8.9 no problem.....but all you need is one valve to float or miss....then click click click. Keep it safe at a safe rpm...then dyno it.

That's pretty much what I meant in my first statement. Just like my b16...just cause I can rev it to 8200 doesn't mean it makes power up there :-\ Hell, one of my friend's turns his d15b2/y8 head motor to 8k on a daily basis, but his power production dies off pretty much after 7500. Put it on the dyno, find out where peak power is made. Then look at where the next shift leaves you at power-wise. Most people I know only spin their motors past peak power range a little bit to give them a jump start on the power band in the next gear.

Bone1 08-17-2006 09:36 PM

Re: z1 head
 
have you seen the tiny ports on athe VETC-E head?

Tom-Guy 08-18-2006 12:40 AM

Re: z1 head
 
VETC-E [sic] redline is 5500.

It's the VETC powerhouse of the CX family!

Guy-Fast 08-18-2006 12:52 AM

Re: z1 head
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
VETC-E [sic] redline is 5500.

It's the VETC powerhouse of the CX family!

The vtec-e is well junk


I studied that damn thing tryin to see if I could transfer over some of the parts but its really a paper weight

+
Its good for the valve cover and solenoid


get yourself a z6 head and make 30+ more hp and have a powerband to 7200+

Tom-Guy 08-18-2006 02:19 AM

Re: z1 head
 
Junk?

If this is the summer of $3/gal gasoline, I want my 50+ mpg. I have a Z1 sitting downstairs I plan to freshen up and use for the next beater.


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