whats the max hp turbo d16 vitar+H beam+ filled block
 

hey guys im just building my d16y7 motor and i just got done filling the block and all i gota do is take it to the shop to get bored honed and the rotating assembly balenced.
my question is how much hp or max boost i will be able to run on my d and wat the max safe rpm i should rev my engine to.. my whole rotation assembly will be balanced also
and anouther question is it worth it for me to o ring my block so i can hold more boost with out poping my gasket... cost to me is 150 to o ring...

my set up is
d16y7 block
p28 vtec head
vitara pistons 1mm over size
H beam rods
new oil pump
ACL new bearing
fully balenced rotating assembly pully ,crank, rods, pistons ,flywheel and clutch cover
T3/T4 turbo ar is 63 oh the hot side
obd1 p28 running chrome will be tuned for me by paul here in sacramento

thanks any tips and respons will be greatly appreatiated

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limit yet to be found..........

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the limit has alot to do with the tune. Why dont you put it togather and get a really good tune and let us know. All setups differ from one another so we cant tell you what your limit will be. my advise is tune till you get max power than add a lil more till it blows up then post what your boost level and horse power was when it blew........................And theres you limit

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make sure you use arp headstuds, and you could easily make 400+ whp on 25 ish psi, but its bound to blow up eventually, stay safe maybe around 18 ish psi making 300 ish whp....

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ok thanks guys except for the trial and blow up idea no thanks i killed two d16 with turbo already the first one wiht no fuel managment and this one i mented a piston and scuffed all the cylinder walls because it was a gay ebay boost chip i was running and 450s and it was getting 16 mpg on me so i got a egay fpr and tuned the fuel pressure down to get good 30 mpg and my ricer af guage was showing me a little on the rich side so i thout it was ok.. but it was lean cuz my guage was hooked up to the seat belt light wire for power..... so i was getting a incorect reading cuz the in voltage was wrong.. so ya.. ill try to post some pics of my block now it has not been bored yet... just filled cleaned up..

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filling block < leaving it alone. Look what happend to hotsex's weaksauce b16

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Anyone got the link for that? I forgot exactly what happened, I'm leaving my B16 block alone on a CT26 20-25psi setup, forged rods and pistons though.

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^^^ sounds nice. I was gonna use a spare ct i have on my car.. but i got a great deal on my turbonetics.

turbo4life- I just read your post again.. 1mm oversize pistons is waaay too much on stock sleeves for any kind of high power application. Your gonna frag a sleeve at 275hp at the most.

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Just what I was gonna say. I believe it was mentioned somewhere on here that the oversize on vitara's (1mm) was equal to around .040. The most you'd want to take a d-series block over is about .030. And that's even pushing it for big power goals.

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yep- .020" (.5mm) is as much as i'd go.

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hey guys i just got back my internet wansnt working so im back and i read all your replay so am i fucked wiht this set up cuz i took it to the machine shop about 1 1/2 weeks ago and now they just getting to it and they want the piston the cylinder wall clearance cuz honda says one size and the suzuki says a diffrent number (vitaras are suzuki pistons) so guys can you tell me wat the clearence should be should i just go wiht the suzukis specs cuz thats wat i told the machine shop and no they want me to find out wat it supposed to be...and one more question so i shouldent run any more than like 13psi on that 1mm over bore since it weakens my sleeves so bad?

thanks

Re: whats the max hp turbo d16 vitar+H beam+ filled block
 

I guess we're about to find out.

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id use the suzuki specs for piston to wall, they are based off of what the piston is made out of. (thermal expansion)

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THANKS BUT I CANT BORE SO ANY MORE YOU SAID D SLEEVES IZ WEAK SAUCE COME ON GUYS DONT DISAPOINT ME IN THIS BUILD (SOHCPWR TOLD ME THAT I SHOULD KEEP IT BELOW 250 HP..) I JUST GOT THE MOTOR BAK AND I WAS CLEARING THE BOTTOM OF THE SLEEVE WITH A GAY DEMEAL FROM HARBOR FRIGHT FOR THE BIG ASS H BEAM RODS BABY!! ANY WAYS THE DUDE AT THE SHOP SET EM UP THIGHT TO HONDA SPECS .0016... SO IT WONT SOUND LIKE A DIESEL TRUCK IN THE MORNING..LOL. ... OH AND YOU SAID TO RUN THE BIG CLEARANCE FOR THE THERMAL EXPANSION ITS NOT SO THIS IS A LONG STROKE ENGINE AND IT WILL MAKE THE PISTON BOUNCE AROUND THATS TOO MUCH CLEARANCE.. THATS WHY IT SCRACHED OR SOMTING THE CYLINDER WALL ON THAT DUDES CIVIC AFTER 7000 MILES HE SAID SO SOMWERE IN THE FORUM THAT ONE THAT 405 WHP BALCK 4DR WIHT IDAHO PLATES RAN 11.43 OR SOMETHING... CAN REMEMBER HIS NAME...

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^^^hahahahaha^^^

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=49459.0 :-*

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heres my motor build pics and a few pics of the melted piston owned by lean mixture lean=bad thats wat happens when you try to get good fuel l economy out of a turbo... without tunning using a chocalte face method turn down the fuel psi.. with a china eGay 30$ fpr!

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[img][/img] how do you put pic so they appear as pics and not attachment cuz this ---- wont let me attach more than 192kb i have lots of pics .. please help me wat i do change the format ?.. if yes to what?

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so far the highest ive seen with that setup is 405 whp... arp headstuds, vitaras, and eagle rods. no filling the block, no posting, no nothing. I think he was pushing 25psi. i heard of him from fjt.

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he posted it on here also, read somewhere that he sold the car and is starting a new project. but yeah the record for highest HP on vitaras is 405. me and a friedn are putting together a build and tryign to stay as cheap as possible and beat his numbers just to see hwo cheap it could be done for.

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I find limits by slowly upping boost level... As soon as you can't get rid of speckles on the plugs by manipulating fuel and timing you've reached the limit. Lower boost or up octane.

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my stuff is up and running nigs check out "my d series ---- sale" in for sale for pics of my turbo d maching :6 boost!