What kind of pistons to use wiht n2o?
10-13-2005, 11:41 AM
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What kind of pistons to use wiht n2o?
Well, I was looking into getting new pistons and rods for the dirty d, and since im running n2o, I was wondering what kind of pistons to get? I really dont want to get low comp pistons because I will run like a slug, but I dont thnk you can run n2o on high comp can you? anyone had this problem before?
10-13-2005, 12:03 PM
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Re: What kind of pistons to use wiht n2o?
i know alot of people with b16's and b18s around here that jack the compression ratio up and spray it to hell. not to many problems from what they tell me. but i really don't know. i have stock in my d15b7 and i spray it with a little 2lb bottle with 10psi on a t3/t4 57 trim and i havn't had any problems with it
10-13-2005, 12:05 PM
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Re: What kind of pistons to use wiht n2o?
Originally Posted by TurbodEG
i know alot of people with b16's and b18s around here that jack the compression ratio up and spray it to hell. not to many problems from what they tell me. but i really don't know. i have stock in my d15b7 and i spray it with a little 2lb bottle with 10psi on a t3/t4 57 trim and i havn't had any problems with it
10-13-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: What kind of pistons to use wiht n2o?
Originally Posted by TurbodEG
what shot you sprayin?
lol. i sprayed my same kit on a 91 civic dx and it fried the rings. lol. but mine handles it.
10-13-2005, 01:06 PM
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this should help
How Does Nitrous Oxide Work?
There are three points. First, nitrous oxide is comprised of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight).
When the nitrous oxide is heated to approximately 572 degrees F (on compression stroke), it breaks down and release extra oxygen,
However, it is not this oxygen alone which creates additional power, but the ability of this oxygen to burn more fuel. By burning
more fuel, higher cylinder pressures are created and this is where most of the additional power is realized. Secondly, as
pressurized nitrous oxide is injected into the intake manifold, it changes from a liquid to a gas (boils). This boiling affect reduces
the temperature of the nitrous to a minus .127 Degrees F. This "cooling affect" in turn significantly reduces intake charge
temperatures by approximately 60-75 Degrees F. This also helps create additional power. A general rule of thumb: For every
10 Degrees F. reduction in intake charge temperature, a 1% increase in power will be realized. Example: A 350 HP engine
with an intake temperature drop of 70 Degrees F, would gain approximately 25 HP on the cooling affect alone. The third point,
the nitrogen that was also released during the compression stroke performs an important role. Nitrogen acts to "buff or
dampen" the increased cylinder pressures leading to a controlled combustion process.
Why Nitrous?
Nitrous oxide injection has become a very popular option for today's performance enthusiast for several reasons:
1.Nitrous offers you more performance per dollar spent, than any other performance modification.
2.Nitrous installations are relatively easy to accomplish.
3.Since Nitrous is used only when needed, it offers you the advantages of complete driveability and normal gas mileage
while not "on the button."
4.Systems available for virtually any power need from 25 HP to over 500 extra HP.
5.One of the few performance options available for today's computer controlled, fuel injected engines.
6.Systems can easily be removed or transferred to another vehicle.
Why NOS?
Through years of involvement with all forms of high performance racing, NOS has evolved into the world's largest manufacturer
of performance nitrous systems. NOS designs and engineers nitrous systems for virtually anything with an internal combustion
engine from stock to highly modified cars, motorcycles, watercraft, aircraft and even snowmobiles. NOS has become
synonymous with quality high performance automotive products. Research and development, engineering and technical support
assure you of being part of the winning NOS team.
The following are answers to the most commonly asked questions about NOS Nitrous Oxide
Systems, compiled by The NOS Research and Development Team.
There's really nothing mystical about nitrous oxide and the application for automotive engines. Very simply NOS made it better
and safer for customer use. The following questions and answers are typical of those fielded by NOS R&D people and we
hope that they will be of help to all of those who seek the winning edge.
Q: Will Nitrous affect engine reliability?
A: The key is choosing the correct H.P. for a given application. A kit that uses the correct factory calibration does not usually
cause increased wear. As the energy released in the cylinder increases so do the loads on the variuos components that must
handle them. If the load increases exceed the ability of the component to handle them, added wear takes place. NOS kits are
designed for use on demand and only at wide open throttle. Nitrous can be extremeny advantageous i that it is only used when
you want it, not all the time. All NOS kits are designed for maximum power with reliability for a given application.
Q: Can I simply bolt a nitrous kit onto my stock engine?
A: Yes, NOS manufactures systems for virtually any stock engine application. The key is to choose the correct kit for a given
application; i.e., 4 cyl. engines normally allow an extra 40-60 HP, 6 cyl. engines usually work great between 75-100 extra HP,
small block V8's (302/350/400cid) can typically accept up to 140 extra HP, and big block V8's (427/454) might accept from
125-200 extra HP. These suggested ranges provide maximum reliability from most stock engines using cast pistons and cast
crank with few or no engine modifications.
Q: What are some of the general rules for even higher H.P. gains?
A: Generally, forged aluminum pistons are one of the best modifications you can make. Retard ignition timing by 4-8 degrees
(1 to 1½ degrees timing retard per 50 H.P. gain). In many cases a higher flowing fuel pump may be necessary. Higher octane
(100+) racing type fuel may be required as well as spark plugs 1 to 2 heat ranges colder than normal with gaps closed to
.025"-.030".
For gains over 250 H.P., other important modifications could be necessary in addition to those mentioned above. These special
modifications may include a forged crankshaft, a high quality race type connecting rod, a high output fuel pump dedicated to
feeding the additional fuel demands of the nitrous system, and a racing fuel with high specific gravity and an octane rating of 110
or more. For more specific information about your application, please contact the NOS technical dept.
Q: How does nitrous work?
A: Nitrous oxide is made up of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight). During the combustion process
in an engine, at about 572 degrees F., nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen. This extra oxygen creates additional power by
allowing more fuel to be burned. Nitrogen acts to buffer, or dampen the increased cylinder pressures helping to control the
combustion process. Nitrous also has a tremendous "intercooling" effect by reducing intake charge temperatures by 60 to 75
degrees F.
Q: What kind of testing or research is performed on NOS products?
A: NOS maintains a complete research and development center including computerized dynamometer equipment as well as a
nitrous/fuel flow testing facility. In addition, NOS is actively involved in many aspects of racing; working close with many top
name racers to develop the most powerful, reliable nitrous systems in the world.
Q: How much performance improvement can I expect with a nitrous system?
A: For many applications an improvement from 1 to 3 full seconds and 10 to 15 MPH in the quarter mile can be expected.
Factors such as engine size, tires, jetting, gearing, etc. will effect the final results.
Q: How long will the bottle last?
A: This largely depends on the type of nitrous kit and jetting used. For example, a 125 HP Power Shot kit with a standard 10
lb. capacity bottle will usually offer up to 7 to 10 full quater-mile passes. For power levels of 250 HP, 3 to 5 full quater-mile
passes may be expected. If nitrous is only used in 2nd and 3rd gears, the number of runs will be more.
Q: How long can I hold the nitrous button down?
A: It is possible to hold the button down until the bottle is empty. However 15 continuous seconds at a time, or less, is
recommend.
Q: When is the best time to use nitrous?
A: At wide open throttle only (unless a progressive controller is used). Due to the tremendous amount of increased torque, you
will generally find best results, traction permitting, at early activation. Nitrous can be safely applied above 2,500 RPM under full
throttle conditions.
Q: Does NOS manufacture 50-state legal nitrous systems?
A: Yes, in fact NOS has several EO numbers for various kits such as the 5.0L Mustang and 305/350 GM V8's, etc. In
addition, there is no need to remove any smog equipment when installing a NOS system. For more information call the NOS
tech line.
Q: Will I have to rejet my carburetor on my car when adding nitrous?
A: No! The NOS system is independent of your carburetor and injects its own mixture of fuel and nitrous.
Q: Is nitrous oxide flammable?
A: No. Nitrous oxide by itself is non-flammable. However, the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to
take place more rapidly.
Q: Will nitrous oxide cause detonation?
A: Not directly. Detonation is the result of too little fuel present during combustion (lean) or too low of an octane of fuel. Too
much ignition advance also causes detonation. In general, most of our kits engineered for stock type engines will work well with
premium type fuels and minimal decreases of ignition timing. In racing applications where higher compression ratios are used,
resulting in higher cylinder pressures, a higher fuel octane must be used as well as more ignition retard.
Q: Where can I get my bottle refilled?
A: Every NOS kit contains a geographical list of refill dealers near you in the U.S. and Canada. Should you need a new list,
simply call NOS.
Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal
amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.
Q: Is it a good idea to use an aftermarket computer chip in conjunction with an NOS System?
A: Only if the chip had been designed specifically for use with nitrous oxide. Most aftermarket chips use more aggressive
timing advance curves to create more power. This can lead to potential detonation. You may wish to check with the
manufacturer of the chip before using it. The top manufacturers, such as Hypertech do make special chips for use with nitrous.
Q: How long does it generally take to install an NOS kit?
A: The majority of NOS kits can be installed using common hand tools in approximately 3 to 5 hours. NOS instruction
manuals are by far the best in the industry; and include specific installation drawings, wiring diagrams, and bottle mounting
procedures as well as performance tips and a thorough trouble shooting guide.
Q: Which type of manifold is better suited for a plate injector type of nitrous system, single or
dual plane manifold?
A: As long as he manifold doesn't interfere with the spray pattern of the bars, either will work fine in most cases. The
distribution is better with a single plane at high RPM. If your goal is to increase power by more than 200 HP, the single plane
manifold is better.
Q: Does nitrous oxide raise cylinder pressures and temperatures?
A: Yes. Due to the ability to burn more fuel, this is exactly why nitrous makes so much power.
Q: Are there any benefits to chilling the nitrous bottle?
A: No. Chilling the bottle lowers the pressure dramatically and will also lower the flow rate of the nitrous causing a fuel rich
condition and reducing power. On cold evenings you might run on the rich side. For optimal running conditions, keep bottle
pressure at apporoximately 800-900 psi. NOS has a nitrous pressure gauge that allows you to monitor this. If you live or
operate a nitrous system in colder climates, it may also be a good idea to purchase a bottle heater kit, part #14161. Generally,
ambient temperatures of 70-90 degrees F. will allow for best power potential of NOS kits.
Q: Are there benefits to using nitrous with turbo or supercharger applications?
A: Absolutely! In turbo applications, turbo lag is completely eliminated with the addition of a nitrous system. In addition, both
turbo and superchargers compress the incoming air, thus heating it. With the injection of nitrous, a tremendous intercooling
effect reduces intake charge temperatures by 75 degrees or more. Boost is usually increased as well; adding to even more
power.
Q: How complete is an NOS kit?
A: NOS prides itself on offering the most complete systems on the market today. They include virtually every component that
may be needed for a complete installation; parts such as extra long carburetor studs, gaskets, pipe tap, fuel hose, brackets,
filters, fittings, hardeare, wiring, filled 10 lb. bottle with Hi-Flo valve, complete instruction manual, and all other major
components are standard in every NOS kit.
Q: What is the difference between a standard and a NOS Hi-Flo bottle valve?
A: The orifice of the Hi-Flo valve is much larger than the standard valve allowing for a larger flow of nitrous. With a small
orfice valve a pressure drop could occur when nitrous flow is high; causing surging or inadequate nitrous flow. The NOS Hi-Flo
valve eleminates this problem. NOS Hi-Flo valves are standard in all NOS kits.
Q: What effect does nitrous have on an engine with considerable miles on it?
A: This depends largely on the actual condition of the engine components. Any performance modification to an engine that is
worn out or poorly tuned will have detrimental effects. However, an engine in good condition, with good ring and head gasket
sealing, should be able to use nitrous without any abnormal wear.
Q: Will the use of nitrous oxide affect the catalytic converter?
A: No. The increase in oxygen present in the exhaust may actually increase the efficiency of the converter. Since the use of
nitrous is normally limited to 10-20 seconds of continuous use, there usually are no appreciable effects. Temperatures are
typically well within acceptable standards.
Q: Will the percentage of performance increase be the same in a highly modified engine compared
to a stock engine when using the same NOS kit and jetting?
A: Not really. In most cases the percentage of increase is greater from a stock engine because it is not as efficient as the
modified engine in a normal non-nitrous mode. However, since the effects of nitrous oxide magnify the output of any engine, the
total power output will be much higher in the modified engine.
Q: Can high compression engines utilize nitrous oxide?
A: Absolutely. High or low compression ratios can work quite suitably with nitrous oxide provided the propler balance of
nitrous and fuel enrichment is maintained. NOS kits are used in applications from relatively low compression stock type motors
to Pro-Modifieds, which often exceed 15 to 1. Generally, the higher the compression ratio, the more ignition retard, as well as
higher octane fuel, is required. For more specific information talk to one of our technicians.
Q: Can service station fuel be used for street/strip nitrous oxide applications?
A: Yes. Use of a premium type leaded or unleaded fuel of 92, or greater, octance is recommended for most applications.
Many NOS systems are designed for use with service station pump gas. However, when higher compression or higher
horsepower levels are used, a racing fuel of 100 octane, or more, must be used.
Q: What type of cam is best suted for use with nitrous oxide?
A: Generally, cams that have more exhaust overlap and duration. However, it is best to choose a cam tailored to normal use
(when nitrous is not activated) since 99% of most vehicle operation is not at full throttle. There are special cam grinds available
for nitrous competition which have more aggresive exhaust profile ramping, etc. Since cam selection depends largely on vehicle
weight, gearing, etc., it is best to stick to cam manufacturer's recommendations for your particular goal.
Q: Are NOS kits applicable on late model EFI cars?
A: Yes, in fact NOS has by far the most comprehensive selection of nitrous kits available for these cars. Call for your specific
application if you do not see it listed.
Q: What type of nitrous system is better; a plate injection system or a direct port injection system?
A: The advantages of a plate system are ease of installation and removal, ability to transfer easily to another vehicle, ability to
change jetting combinations quickly, and, in most cases, provide you with all the extra HP you will ever need (75 to 350 more
HP). In some cases, such as in-line type engines with long runners, a direct port type system is advisable for maximizing
distribution. Also, where more than 350 HP is needed, our direct port Fogger systems will provide the ultimate in distribution
and power (up to 500+ HP). Direct port injection is also desirable when the system is hidden under the manifold.
Q: Should I modify my fuel system to use nitrous oxide?
A: Most stock fuel pumps will work adequately for smaller nitrous applications. It is important to check to see if your pump
can flow enough fuel to your existing fuel system (whether carburetor or fuel injected), as well as being able to supply the
additional fuel required by the nitrous kit under full throttle conditions. It may be a good idea to dedicate a separate fuel pump
to the nitrous kit.
Q: Which is the best position to mount a nitrous bottle?
A: NOS bottles come with siphon tubes and, in order to maintain proper nitrous pickup, it is important to mount the bottle
correctly. We recommend mounting the bottle at a 15 degree angle with the valve end higher than the bottom of the bottle. The
valve end of the bottle should point to the front of the vehicle and the valve **** and label should face straight up.
Q: How important is it to use nitrous and fuel filters in a kit?
A: Some of the most important components of any nitrous system are nitrous and fuel filters. To keep contaminants from
attacking the solenoid or plugging up a jet, NOS nitrous filters feature a special stainless steel mesh element from the aerospace
industry.
Q: What are the advantages of using nitrous compared to other performance options?
A: The cost of many other performance options can put you in the poorhouse. Dollar for dollar, you can't buy more
performance with less money than nitrous. With a nitrous system, performance and reliability can be had for a much more
reasonable price while retaining the advantages of a stock engine during normal driving. And, nitrous offers tremendous gains in
torque without having to rev the engine to excessive rpm's. These factors help your engine last longer than many other methods
of boosting horsepower.
Q: Does NOS manufacture kits for motorcycles, water craft, or snowmobiles?
A: Absolutely, call or write NOS to obtain our special catalog devoted specifically to these applications.
Q: What kind of pressures are components subject to in a typical nitrous kit?
A: Pressures often exceed 1,000 psi. This is why NOS uses only high pressure tested aircraft quality components like stainless
steel braided Teflon lines throughout it's systems.
Q: How do I know how much nitrous is left in the bottle?
A: The most reliable way is to weigh the bottle to determine how many pounds remain. When a bottle is near empty (about
20% or less nitrous remaining) a surging effect is normally felt.
Q: What is the function of the blow-off safety valve on the bottle?
A: It is very importent not to overfill a bottle; i.e., a 10 lb. capacity bottle should not be filled with more than 10 lb. of nitrous
oxide by weight. Over-filling and/or too much heat can cause excessive bottle pressures forcing the safety seal to blow and
releasing all the contents out of the bottle.
Q:Will I have to change my ignition system?
A: Most late model ignition systems are well suited for nitrous applications. In some higher HP cases, it may be advisable to
look into a high quality high output ignition system.
Courtesy of NOS website (1997-?)
There are three points. First, nitrous oxide is comprised of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight).
When the nitrous oxide is heated to approximately 572 degrees F (on compression stroke), it breaks down and release extra oxygen,
However, it is not this oxygen alone which creates additional power, but the ability of this oxygen to burn more fuel. By burning
more fuel, higher cylinder pressures are created and this is where most of the additional power is realized. Secondly, as
pressurized nitrous oxide is injected into the intake manifold, it changes from a liquid to a gas (boils). This boiling affect reduces
the temperature of the nitrous to a minus .127 Degrees F. This "cooling affect" in turn significantly reduces intake charge
temperatures by approximately 60-75 Degrees F. This also helps create additional power. A general rule of thumb: For every
10 Degrees F. reduction in intake charge temperature, a 1% increase in power will be realized. Example: A 350 HP engine
with an intake temperature drop of 70 Degrees F, would gain approximately 25 HP on the cooling affect alone. The third point,
the nitrogen that was also released during the compression stroke performs an important role. Nitrogen acts to "buff or
dampen" the increased cylinder pressures leading to a controlled combustion process.
Why Nitrous?
Nitrous oxide injection has become a very popular option for today's performance enthusiast for several reasons:
1.Nitrous offers you more performance per dollar spent, than any other performance modification.
2.Nitrous installations are relatively easy to accomplish.
3.Since Nitrous is used only when needed, it offers you the advantages of complete driveability and normal gas mileage
while not "on the button."
4.Systems available for virtually any power need from 25 HP to over 500 extra HP.
5.One of the few performance options available for today's computer controlled, fuel injected engines.
6.Systems can easily be removed or transferred to another vehicle.
Why NOS?
Through years of involvement with all forms of high performance racing, NOS has evolved into the world's largest manufacturer
of performance nitrous systems. NOS designs and engineers nitrous systems for virtually anything with an internal combustion
engine from stock to highly modified cars, motorcycles, watercraft, aircraft and even snowmobiles. NOS has become
synonymous with quality high performance automotive products. Research and development, engineering and technical support
assure you of being part of the winning NOS team.
The following are answers to the most commonly asked questions about NOS Nitrous Oxide
Systems, compiled by The NOS Research and Development Team.
There's really nothing mystical about nitrous oxide and the application for automotive engines. Very simply NOS made it better
and safer for customer use. The following questions and answers are typical of those fielded by NOS R&D people and we
hope that they will be of help to all of those who seek the winning edge.
Q: Will Nitrous affect engine reliability?
A: The key is choosing the correct H.P. for a given application. A kit that uses the correct factory calibration does not usually
cause increased wear. As the energy released in the cylinder increases so do the loads on the variuos components that must
handle them. If the load increases exceed the ability of the component to handle them, added wear takes place. NOS kits are
designed for use on demand and only at wide open throttle. Nitrous can be extremeny advantageous i that it is only used when
you want it, not all the time. All NOS kits are designed for maximum power with reliability for a given application.
Q: Can I simply bolt a nitrous kit onto my stock engine?
A: Yes, NOS manufactures systems for virtually any stock engine application. The key is to choose the correct kit for a given
application; i.e., 4 cyl. engines normally allow an extra 40-60 HP, 6 cyl. engines usually work great between 75-100 extra HP,
small block V8's (302/350/400cid) can typically accept up to 140 extra HP, and big block V8's (427/454) might accept from
125-200 extra HP. These suggested ranges provide maximum reliability from most stock engines using cast pistons and cast
crank with few or no engine modifications.
Q: What are some of the general rules for even higher H.P. gains?
A: Generally, forged aluminum pistons are one of the best modifications you can make. Retard ignition timing by 4-8 degrees
(1 to 1½ degrees timing retard per 50 H.P. gain). In many cases a higher flowing fuel pump may be necessary. Higher octane
(100+) racing type fuel may be required as well as spark plugs 1 to 2 heat ranges colder than normal with gaps closed to
.025"-.030".
For gains over 250 H.P., other important modifications could be necessary in addition to those mentioned above. These special
modifications may include a forged crankshaft, a high quality race type connecting rod, a high output fuel pump dedicated to
feeding the additional fuel demands of the nitrous system, and a racing fuel with high specific gravity and an octane rating of 110
or more. For more specific information about your application, please contact the NOS technical dept.
Q: How does nitrous work?
A: Nitrous oxide is made up of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight). During the combustion process
in an engine, at about 572 degrees F., nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen. This extra oxygen creates additional power by
allowing more fuel to be burned. Nitrogen acts to buffer, or dampen the increased cylinder pressures helping to control the
combustion process. Nitrous also has a tremendous "intercooling" effect by reducing intake charge temperatures by 60 to 75
degrees F.
Q: What kind of testing or research is performed on NOS products?
A: NOS maintains a complete research and development center including computerized dynamometer equipment as well as a
nitrous/fuel flow testing facility. In addition, NOS is actively involved in many aspects of racing; working close with many top
name racers to develop the most powerful, reliable nitrous systems in the world.
Q: How much performance improvement can I expect with a nitrous system?
A: For many applications an improvement from 1 to 3 full seconds and 10 to 15 MPH in the quarter mile can be expected.
Factors such as engine size, tires, jetting, gearing, etc. will effect the final results.
Q: How long will the bottle last?
A: This largely depends on the type of nitrous kit and jetting used. For example, a 125 HP Power Shot kit with a standard 10
lb. capacity bottle will usually offer up to 7 to 10 full quater-mile passes. For power levels of 250 HP, 3 to 5 full quater-mile
passes may be expected. If nitrous is only used in 2nd and 3rd gears, the number of runs will be more.
Q: How long can I hold the nitrous button down?
A: It is possible to hold the button down until the bottle is empty. However 15 continuous seconds at a time, or less, is
recommend.
Q: When is the best time to use nitrous?
A: At wide open throttle only (unless a progressive controller is used). Due to the tremendous amount of increased torque, you
will generally find best results, traction permitting, at early activation. Nitrous can be safely applied above 2,500 RPM under full
throttle conditions.
Q: Does NOS manufacture 50-state legal nitrous systems?
A: Yes, in fact NOS has several EO numbers for various kits such as the 5.0L Mustang and 305/350 GM V8's, etc. In
addition, there is no need to remove any smog equipment when installing a NOS system. For more information call the NOS
tech line.
Q: Will I have to rejet my carburetor on my car when adding nitrous?
A: No! The NOS system is independent of your carburetor and injects its own mixture of fuel and nitrous.
Q: Is nitrous oxide flammable?
A: No. Nitrous oxide by itself is non-flammable. However, the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to
take place more rapidly.
Q: Will nitrous oxide cause detonation?
A: Not directly. Detonation is the result of too little fuel present during combustion (lean) or too low of an octane of fuel. Too
much ignition advance also causes detonation. In general, most of our kits engineered for stock type engines will work well with
premium type fuels and minimal decreases of ignition timing. In racing applications where higher compression ratios are used,
resulting in higher cylinder pressures, a higher fuel octane must be used as well as more ignition retard.
Q: Where can I get my bottle refilled?
A: Every NOS kit contains a geographical list of refill dealers near you in the U.S. and Canada. Should you need a new list,
simply call NOS.
Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal
amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.
Q: Is it a good idea to use an aftermarket computer chip in conjunction with an NOS System?
A: Only if the chip had been designed specifically for use with nitrous oxide. Most aftermarket chips use more aggressive
timing advance curves to create more power. This can lead to potential detonation. You may wish to check with the
manufacturer of the chip before using it. The top manufacturers, such as Hypertech do make special chips for use with nitrous.
Q: How long does it generally take to install an NOS kit?
A: The majority of NOS kits can be installed using common hand tools in approximately 3 to 5 hours. NOS instruction
manuals are by far the best in the industry; and include specific installation drawings, wiring diagrams, and bottle mounting
procedures as well as performance tips and a thorough trouble shooting guide.
Q: Which type of manifold is better suited for a plate injector type of nitrous system, single or
dual plane manifold?
A: As long as he manifold doesn't interfere with the spray pattern of the bars, either will work fine in most cases. The
distribution is better with a single plane at high RPM. If your goal is to increase power by more than 200 HP, the single plane
manifold is better.
Q: Does nitrous oxide raise cylinder pressures and temperatures?
A: Yes. Due to the ability to burn more fuel, this is exactly why nitrous makes so much power.
Q: Are there any benefits to chilling the nitrous bottle?
A: No. Chilling the bottle lowers the pressure dramatically and will also lower the flow rate of the nitrous causing a fuel rich
condition and reducing power. On cold evenings you might run on the rich side. For optimal running conditions, keep bottle
pressure at apporoximately 800-900 psi. NOS has a nitrous pressure gauge that allows you to monitor this. If you live or
operate a nitrous system in colder climates, it may also be a good idea to purchase a bottle heater kit, part #14161. Generally,
ambient temperatures of 70-90 degrees F. will allow for best power potential of NOS kits.
Q: Are there benefits to using nitrous with turbo or supercharger applications?
A: Absolutely! In turbo applications, turbo lag is completely eliminated with the addition of a nitrous system. In addition, both
turbo and superchargers compress the incoming air, thus heating it. With the injection of nitrous, a tremendous intercooling
effect reduces intake charge temperatures by 75 degrees or more. Boost is usually increased as well; adding to even more
power.
Q: How complete is an NOS kit?
A: NOS prides itself on offering the most complete systems on the market today. They include virtually every component that
may be needed for a complete installation; parts such as extra long carburetor studs, gaskets, pipe tap, fuel hose, brackets,
filters, fittings, hardeare, wiring, filled 10 lb. bottle with Hi-Flo valve, complete instruction manual, and all other major
components are standard in every NOS kit.
Q: What is the difference between a standard and a NOS Hi-Flo bottle valve?
A: The orifice of the Hi-Flo valve is much larger than the standard valve allowing for a larger flow of nitrous. With a small
orfice valve a pressure drop could occur when nitrous flow is high; causing surging or inadequate nitrous flow. The NOS Hi-Flo
valve eleminates this problem. NOS Hi-Flo valves are standard in all NOS kits.
Q: What effect does nitrous have on an engine with considerable miles on it?
A: This depends largely on the actual condition of the engine components. Any performance modification to an engine that is
worn out or poorly tuned will have detrimental effects. However, an engine in good condition, with good ring and head gasket
sealing, should be able to use nitrous without any abnormal wear.
Q: Will the use of nitrous oxide affect the catalytic converter?
A: No. The increase in oxygen present in the exhaust may actually increase the efficiency of the converter. Since the use of
nitrous is normally limited to 10-20 seconds of continuous use, there usually are no appreciable effects. Temperatures are
typically well within acceptable standards.
Q: Will the percentage of performance increase be the same in a highly modified engine compared
to a stock engine when using the same NOS kit and jetting?
A: Not really. In most cases the percentage of increase is greater from a stock engine because it is not as efficient as the
modified engine in a normal non-nitrous mode. However, since the effects of nitrous oxide magnify the output of any engine, the
total power output will be much higher in the modified engine.
Q: Can high compression engines utilize nitrous oxide?
A: Absolutely. High or low compression ratios can work quite suitably with nitrous oxide provided the propler balance of
nitrous and fuel enrichment is maintained. NOS kits are used in applications from relatively low compression stock type motors
to Pro-Modifieds, which often exceed 15 to 1. Generally, the higher the compression ratio, the more ignition retard, as well as
higher octane fuel, is required. For more specific information talk to one of our technicians.
Q: Can service station fuel be used for street/strip nitrous oxide applications?
A: Yes. Use of a premium type leaded or unleaded fuel of 92, or greater, octance is recommended for most applications.
Many NOS systems are designed for use with service station pump gas. However, when higher compression or higher
horsepower levels are used, a racing fuel of 100 octane, or more, must be used.
Q: What type of cam is best suted for use with nitrous oxide?
A: Generally, cams that have more exhaust overlap and duration. However, it is best to choose a cam tailored to normal use
(when nitrous is not activated) since 99% of most vehicle operation is not at full throttle. There are special cam grinds available
for nitrous competition which have more aggresive exhaust profile ramping, etc. Since cam selection depends largely on vehicle
weight, gearing, etc., it is best to stick to cam manufacturer's recommendations for your particular goal.
Q: Are NOS kits applicable on late model EFI cars?
A: Yes, in fact NOS has by far the most comprehensive selection of nitrous kits available for these cars. Call for your specific
application if you do not see it listed.
Q: What type of nitrous system is better; a plate injection system or a direct port injection system?
A: The advantages of a plate system are ease of installation and removal, ability to transfer easily to another vehicle, ability to
change jetting combinations quickly, and, in most cases, provide you with all the extra HP you will ever need (75 to 350 more
HP). In some cases, such as in-line type engines with long runners, a direct port type system is advisable for maximizing
distribution. Also, where more than 350 HP is needed, our direct port Fogger systems will provide the ultimate in distribution
and power (up to 500+ HP). Direct port injection is also desirable when the system is hidden under the manifold.
Q: Should I modify my fuel system to use nitrous oxide?
A: Most stock fuel pumps will work adequately for smaller nitrous applications. It is important to check to see if your pump
can flow enough fuel to your existing fuel system (whether carburetor or fuel injected), as well as being able to supply the
additional fuel required by the nitrous kit under full throttle conditions. It may be a good idea to dedicate a separate fuel pump
to the nitrous kit.
Q: Which is the best position to mount a nitrous bottle?
A: NOS bottles come with siphon tubes and, in order to maintain proper nitrous pickup, it is important to mount the bottle
correctly. We recommend mounting the bottle at a 15 degree angle with the valve end higher than the bottom of the bottle. The
valve end of the bottle should point to the front of the vehicle and the valve **** and label should face straight up.
Q: How important is it to use nitrous and fuel filters in a kit?
A: Some of the most important components of any nitrous system are nitrous and fuel filters. To keep contaminants from
attacking the solenoid or plugging up a jet, NOS nitrous filters feature a special stainless steel mesh element from the aerospace
industry.
Q: What are the advantages of using nitrous compared to other performance options?
A: The cost of many other performance options can put you in the poorhouse. Dollar for dollar, you can't buy more
performance with less money than nitrous. With a nitrous system, performance and reliability can be had for a much more
reasonable price while retaining the advantages of a stock engine during normal driving. And, nitrous offers tremendous gains in
torque without having to rev the engine to excessive rpm's. These factors help your engine last longer than many other methods
of boosting horsepower.
Q: Does NOS manufacture kits for motorcycles, water craft, or snowmobiles?
A: Absolutely, call or write NOS to obtain our special catalog devoted specifically to these applications.
Q: What kind of pressures are components subject to in a typical nitrous kit?
A: Pressures often exceed 1,000 psi. This is why NOS uses only high pressure tested aircraft quality components like stainless
steel braided Teflon lines throughout it's systems.
Q: How do I know how much nitrous is left in the bottle?
A: The most reliable way is to weigh the bottle to determine how many pounds remain. When a bottle is near empty (about
20% or less nitrous remaining) a surging effect is normally felt.
Q: What is the function of the blow-off safety valve on the bottle?
A: It is very importent not to overfill a bottle; i.e., a 10 lb. capacity bottle should not be filled with more than 10 lb. of nitrous
oxide by weight. Over-filling and/or too much heat can cause excessive bottle pressures forcing the safety seal to blow and
releasing all the contents out of the bottle.
Q:Will I have to change my ignition system?
A: Most late model ignition systems are well suited for nitrous applications. In some higher HP cases, it may be advisable to
look into a high quality high output ignition system.
Courtesy of NOS website (1997-?)
10-13-2005, 01:09 PM
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Posts: 3,207
Re: What kind of pistons to use wiht n2o?
dry kits seem to cause problems, lean conditions thus leading to fried pistons n detonation n what not. convert it to a wet kit. single fogger is so out of proportion and usually causes the 2 pistons closest towards the tb to go out first. safest way to run nitrous and get good results is direcport and you can get away with like 100 shot spreyin 25 per cylinder... imagine doing 100shot single fogger, first piston gets like half of that haha...
