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i came across an interesting build and thought i would share with you all...

Suzuki Vitara pistons... i guess mate up to stock d series rods or eagles and are able to take the abuse of 15psi... but the CR seems kinda low...8.5???


http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=860134

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give it a try and let us know how it goes

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stock d-series ---- can take 15 psi...its really not worth the work to put in other non-forged ---- imo

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I would be worried about the rods before the pistons but people do that swap just to lower the compression and the pistons are dirt cheap.

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The grand vitara's are forged pistons, mate these up with a set of 300 dollar Eagle rods and your good to go.. Budget build

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Stock d's might take it, but might not, you never know. With this cheap build you know it'll be fine, you don't have to wish it will hold.

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after reading through that thread it seems even the suzuki people say they arent forged ???...im interested though

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But there was just one guy saying they weren't and the dealer said they were, who will you believe? I would call the dealer or do some more research.

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lol....a dealer said they were forged. my honda dealer has to ask me how many doors my car has when i tell him its a 96 cx. they dont even know the honda engine codes either

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Me:
"I have a 94 d16z6 engine. Do you guys have the bottom end seals for my block?"

Honda dealer:

"What's a d16?"

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thats pretty funny because I was really looking into these piston's to. Im going to go to the Susuki dealer today. Theyre even 75mm bore so they will just slide in. Well heres a little info:

need to get them out of the 98-99 Susuki Vaitra 1.6 sohc
code of piston G16
Forged and floating style
can use stock pins
75mm bore
people boost on them 15-20 psi all the time and some people have even been know to boost 25 psi.
people are saying you can get all 4 for $100-$140 (sounds better than the $300+ range

sounds like a pretty good deal. I will let everyone know how much I get them for and how everything goes. Im planning on mating them to some eagle rods. Anyone have any eagle rods for sale for a good price pm me and let me know. Very serious! -Nick

oh yeah also I am going to get to the bottom of if theyre forged or not. Would think so though if people are boosting 20 psi on them without a problem. ???

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I am curious about the answer to these questions......

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I am going to look into these pistons a little more myself. I just bought some brand new eagle rods of eBay for $307 shipped, so I am going to need some pistons pretty soon.

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make sure you have your cylinders checked before you buy pistons, you woudln't want to have to get the block bored and have pistons that are too small.

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Werd...

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ls rods + suzki pistons?

Nick

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I was thinking this, but eagles are only $300. I could have got the LS rods for free, but finding somebody to do the machine work for cheap was the problem. If you can get the LS rods machined for cheap, then I would defintely try it.

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what kinda power can ls rods hold? got an approximate ammount?

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about 280-300 if ur lucky

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i'm just gonna go the cheapo route and pop some of those Vitara slugs into my spare z6 block with stock rods. :P

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anyone have the link to what you need to do to get the ls rods to fit in are d16's? to lazy to search ;)

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http://www.hstuners.com/forums/showt...threadid=16805[

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i did my own research on these pistons and found out they are not forged, they are cast aluminum, i even found out that a GEO tracker all years and even chey tracker 97 and up all have the same size bore as any D series, also same size wrist pin, but only if they were forged.... but they have a very low compression when mixxing them with the D series. i am still very intrested in this though....

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sooo...suzuki actually has something of value out there besides the gsxr? lol. interesting idea using the vitara's pistons...

-cody

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but the CR seems kinda low...8.5???




What if you mill your head?would that help?also would a d16z6 ryn crappy with that compresion?

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Not if you wanna run larger amounts of boost ;D The lower the better. And besides...an early 90's accord f22 has pretty much that c/r anyway, and they run just fine ::)

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i think thats the reason y they can handle so much boost.

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I dont get it, Y7 pistons will give u about 8.5:1 too with a Z6 head and are cast. So might as well stay Honda... or in my case I scored a Y7 block in the junkyard with 20k miles.

I will say though that my car is a HUGE pig out of the hole, i regret 8.5:1 every day I romp on it.

Just doesnt seem worth the effort unless you're going to replace the rods, which in that case you'd prolly want more than 8.5:1 anyway since you can handle it!

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i know what you mean, i went from 10.5 compression to 9 flat and my car just sucks at the low end.

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I keep seeing the words "viagra piston" when I look thru the forum. Thought I'd post my dillusions.

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thats hella funny b/c i keep seeing that too... and its my original post. :-\

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Hello guys..newbie here.

There are many controversies about them being forged or not..So, someone at Honda Tech im'ed me saying that he works at a Suzuki dealer and he asked the techs and they said that indeed they are forged. Forged or not they can handle good 15-20 PSIs of boost.

I am currently using them on my ride only that i am not boosted yet and to be hones they feel good and the car pulls better that what i thought.

I have some friends in my country that uses them for their turbo D series and they have had great results..

I have a friend that runs 12's sec with thm on a Y7 coupe so HELL!!! Forged or not they do provide great results. 12 second runs on a 100% full interior car on a non vtec car are good any day.

The piston comes with a floating pin style and any D series or any aftermarket rod for the D series will fit in there without any modification.The reason for the lower compresion ratios is due that the piston is slightly shorter than the Honda OEM ones.With a larger rod i believe this can be raised.

My car compresion test was 150PSI per cilynder with the cam retarded 3 degrees.With the sprocker at 0 it might me around 160-165PSI per cilinder.

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hummmm.....dam I wish I had a few extra dollars to build a new bottom end. I would for sure buy these pistons. So...its vatara pistons, and honda 75mm rings...

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Thats correct..Vitara pistons and Honda OEM 75mm pistons rings.
I am using Hastings rings.They sealed neatly and perfectly on specs. Theyre Chromoly rings and can hold good amounts of boost too.

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i bought them, and got them in the mail with hastiongs rings for $110 shipped from the honda tech group buy. They infact are not forged but cast aluminum, they look great, and i am hopeing to mate them to some eagle rods soon when they cash is a little better. but hey you cant beat the deal with a stick. hey if some one pms me how to post pix ill post some up of the pistons :D

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post those pictures!

to post pictures......

go to a web hosting site such as www.pix8.com (its 100% free, no sign up, nothin) upload your picture, its very user friendly. then its gonna take you to a page and it says something in there about halfway down like, use this picture in a forum.... it will be a http address...highlight that and right-click, copy. then come back to homemadeturbo.com and go back to your thread and click on the little image YABBC tab above. its under the S with the line though it. anyways, you click on that, and two image brackets will come up [img][img] in the middle of the ][ you put the cursor, and paste the address there so the [img] is at both ends of the address. that all there is to it. also make sure your pictures arent huge before posting.

-one other thing, its alot easier to have 2 windows open, one for pix8 and one for homemadeturbo.com

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Here ya go..My pistons with Eagle rods
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

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dam those things are nice...
i want some!

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I'm having trouble getting those pistons. Let me know where yall buy them from. And how much.

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I am conducting the group buy in Honda Tech..I am the dude selling them there but right now they are out of stock..They should be here next week.