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http://www.honda-tech.com/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=865236

Pretty sweet !!!
B-series swap this !!

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mmmmmmmk, they're claiming 12-13's with 148 whp, good ------- luck, takes at least 200 whp in a hatch to hit 12-13's ::)

Re:tamparacing/honda-tech SOHC makes 148WHP N/A !!
 

and its a mustang dyno. they usually read higher.

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It was a mustang dyno, but it is programed to read like a dynojet.
So those are dyno jet numbers, basiclly.

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pretty good :)

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Wow I bet that isnt fast ::)

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yeah whoopte freaking doo... Add a 50 shot and minor bolt ons to that engine and youll be ahead in the power department (man an HMT would faster too)... and itd still be N/A... not all motor but N/A

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gotta love wasting ur time

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its not worth the !!s. reread your topic, 148whp... thats not even worth posting about unless your trying to figure out whats wrong with the system.

Nick

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I dont know how well 50 shot will do with the 12.5 compression... but *SHRUG* Trix arent for kids...

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my guess is its a low - mid 14

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honda-tech is ------- gay

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My car has a HMT and I preach HMT to everyone, but that doesn't mean a D-series making 148WHP isn't cool.

You guys kinda sound like V8 guys talking about hondas... really...

I know a turbo would be better, I know it wouldn't beat a POS with a POS turbo kit !!! Still 1.6L making 170Crank Hp is pretty good, of course without FI..

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If this isn't proof of why a N/A Honda is worthless I don't know what is. I can't believe they're proud of 148hp. ::) I would be embarrased if it was my car.

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Isnt that "mad tv"?

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Fucker. I think it is. :-[ That makes my joke not so funny. :'( Damn you!! ::shakes finger at Raffi::
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im actually going to try to put a similar engine together and see what happens. not givng up on boost id never do that but i want to try my hand at putting a motor together. im going to just use all stock honda parts too. well see. ;)

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Honda makes a NA 1.6l that pumps out 185hp b16b :P

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nitrous loves compression (if you add fuel too)........i think with a 50 shot that guy could put down some respectable numbers, for what he has at least. 148 from a all-honda-part d-series is pretty respectable.

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I thought that was about standard...

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Dang u guys are crazy.I know the girl who owns the car and its her daily driver.Angela also has a crx which will prob put out close to 400hp on a boosted b series.I personally dont think she should be getting flamed. :P

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I'm not flaming, just thought those numbers were about on par with a tuned dseries n/a.

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----, I have a golf cart with that much HP. j/k

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Btw her dyno was untuned and running really rich across the board.She'll more than likely post an update soon.

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Hopefully she'll take it to secert service to prove the dyno wasn't just goofed up.

The B16b made 185hp ?? News to me....

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i think its realistic, down here in AZ there is a hatch from Superior racing development that has only 158 HP that its running 12.6. In a light car i think horsepower numbers dont mean anything its the torque that gives you accelleration. http://www.superiorracing.com/

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well why the ---- did they put a UNTUNNED... with no purpose of tunning...on damn dyno in the first place!

running 12 or more compression on pump gas is bad idea the gas mix is inconsistant. and remembering to put half a gallon of octane booster cost as much as a tank a gas.

ran 11.4:1 over year ( until 92+water make BOOM!)

its hard to get a good mix of gas for daily driven high compression engine .4 BIG cans of Outlaw booster.. each fill up..


and 148hp to the WHEELS is DOG POOP!!...for SOHC.N/A at that

with that much compression he needs a Header, Another Cam, ECU programming,suggest carbs ( for ease of tunning ), Capacitive discharge system, to imporve drivablity
diffrent heat range plugs, that stock ones for that motor arn't too good.
detination at start up just says that cold start loop is too lean. and the fuel octane is to low and the timing is improper..
another moron and a honda..

falkhen

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okay. nice reading about myself on a board i haven't visited. so hello to you to.

to get some things straightened out. i put the car on the dyno to come in as the the slowest car at the dyno party that night, think about it, a mustang dyno meant mustangs were around, who are way higher in whp and torque than me. my boi put his new xB on and i for fun put mine on. sadly i took 2nd place. (it's a joke people, get it?) so that is why the car wasn't put on for dyno tuning purposes. and i haven't had the cash flow to do proper dyno tuning. though secret services has made me an offer.

this sohc project was done so that i could learn the inner workings of an engine. strip it down to bare block/head and rebuild them up. my boi designed the build and taught me how to do the labor. my money, my time, my learning experience and i don't give a ---- if you think it's a waste or not. i loved it and hope to continue working on Honda engines.

a typical mini me swap from my understanding normally puts down 132 whp. well in stage 1 of this build (there are two more to go) i put down 148 whp/125 ft/lb of torque and yes i am happy with that and torque numbers beat a b16a and close in on the GSR. with the final build stage and proper tuning i hope to gain 5 to 7 more at the wheels. (maybe cuz i am a gurl i am happy or maybe it's because i just like to see what i can do that made me happy. yes i know...who lives for the simple things these days?)

now my car is expected to run 14's, where you people got anything lower is freakin beyond me and right now the car isn't even pulling 15's at the track. i have 14 year old suspension and stupid 17" rims (stupid decisions at a younger age) to thank for that. but that is all being changed in stage II.

the car must be done as a total package to achieve a good track time. (just think a gurl who knows this! yes run, hide and be scared).

my compression is 12.6:1 on a 78,000's headgasket. stock headgasket it 14.7:1 and the engine ran on 100 oct but the bearings didn't love it much. <--- DUH!

we have achieved running 93 oct by dialing everything in together. it runs rich when i hit it hard (which isn't too often) and the sprak plugs are CLEAN all the way across. they really hate me for that...lol.

i absolutely do not like nitrous oxide. i refuse to put it near any of my engines. i know properly managed it can make a difference, it's just not my thing.

i try to stick with newer gas stations and only one brand of fuel. as i work for an environmental engineering firm who works with a large petroleum client, i know the horrors of old tanks and the water tables in the state of FL. water in gasoline can damage the hell out of my engine. but that is a chance we all take everytime we fill up. NOTHING IS PERFECT.

so far the engine hasn't missed a beat. it's a very strong and fun FOR ME daily driver. and that's what it is about, it was built FOR ME NOT YOU! but you are entitled to your own opinion and I WISH YOU all the best of luck with your builds. i know there are bigger and better builds out there and hope to run into them someday.

look most of you don't know me, but do know this. i don't brag about what i do. i am just happy with what i do and i love to learn. my experience with this engine has been awesome and stage III should finish out some of the issues that need to be worked out for daily management and when I want to really get on it.

the car has been with me since it came off the lot in October of 1990, he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

thebluecrx:

hi! hope to see you out tonight. 400 whp? ;) the b16a sirI that is now in my rex is only going to put down 200 whp and it's going back to the charger not the turbo as i thought was going to happen. long story. anyway. it's not a big build but should be fun for me to drive.

falkhen:

i'm a gurl. i'm not a moron. and i bet i've been driving Honda way longer than you have, if you have. and through your words of distaste i have found a few suggestions to consider and some things that i have already done and will be done in stage III. but hey thanx for judging me, and all this time i thought i had to wait until i was dead for God to judge me. glad to know you want to help with that. here's a bit of advice, you don't want that job. good luck to you on whatever it is you do and sorry your friends compression ration of 11.4:1 (which isn't very high) went BOOM on something that obviously was not on purpose. but from what i've read, you probably blamed that person.

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stop taking this ---- personally, there's always somebody faster or more knowledgable. The fact that you came to this site, read some obscure posts, then registered to post about how much you don't care is counter intuitive(if you do care then stop), but now that your registered check out what other people are saying about each other's builds.

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"boi"



loser

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okay okay. the reason i posted was due to the fact that a member of this board sent me a message on the board i frequent. so i thought i would educate those who posted on my project and the reasons behind it. besides who doesn't get a little defensive...

i always like to learn about other people's builds. it's like AutoCAD there are a freakin million ways to get one thing done, it's neat to see how we achieve that especially with the Honda engine.

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oh my someone does not know how to have a little bit of fun with the english language now do they?

well just so you know and you can check tampa racing on this, under my screen name you will find the words

l o S e r g I R l

now you can get it right ;) but really how did you know? :-*

alright. i'm done here ;D

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I don't see why you guys hated so much? I read up as much as a i could on this setup, and well i dunno.

lets see...

-PM7(p29) pistons and rods, can be had for damn cheap, get them at the the junker for 30 bucks if you wanted, everyday of the week.

-y8 head. about 150 on ebay, maybe more

-plus vtec activation relay, that ----, maybe 30 bucks

So if your rebuilding your d16a6, and you want more power, add about 220 dollars and you get 148 WHP 125ft/lbs.

No lets say you add a header, TB, FPR, good exhaust, a well matched cam, alittle porting, custom intake manifold, and alittle tunning via TE style, thats quite alot of power N/A, and I bet thats for about the same price as building a decent HMT kit.

I think I'm gona use this setup in our austin mini, since we were gona just stick in a a6 with carbs.

all above mentioned(minus the intake manifold and TB) and I'd say about 200 WHP N/A tuned with carburators.


Now if it's all bullshit about the dyno graphs and power output and what mods she has, then ---- me, But I believe it, why not.

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Guess its just impossible to believe the POS Sohc 1.6L could make simular power to the "ALMIGHTY" Dohc 1.6L.

benz 5.4L Sohc Supercharged V8 = 469hp
Ford 5.4L Sohc Supercharged V8 = 385hp

Is it really that hard to believe that 2 1.6L engines could be within 10hp of each other since one is Sohc and one is Dohc.

Odd how the Dohc guys are all in "disbelief", yet most the Sohc guys are tending to believe its possible.

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put the same money on a d that u put on ur b and well see whos got better hp

im a d guy and this thread is pointless

b will always be > than d when identical amounts of money are poured into them

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why all the emphasis on the fact that you are a female?

"....and im a girl!!@@"

who cares.

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to the chitown brat. not even regular mini-me's put out 135 whp. its more like 130 crank hp. i think thats pretty reasonable for a sohc. and its funny because a 400 hp turbo car would be just as fast as a 200 hp all motor car.

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this thread and the 'girl' that PAID to have all her work done are gay, the end ::)