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FooK 09-09-2005 10:57 PM

surging idle (SOLVED, answer at bottom)
 
Bone Stock d16z6 with a cold air intake, and APEX'i V-AFC Installed

original motor in the stock car it came in, 150K on it, doesnt burn oil, doesnt leak anything, good strong engine.

problem.

Idle surges from 1000-1500. The surge is very systematic, its always at the same tempo and goes to the same rpm range.

what kinda ---- can cause this? IACV has been replaced, cant see any vacuum leaks, its not like theres tons of vacuum lines on a 95 SI.

ideas?

Civic4Sale 09-09-2005 11:08 PM

Re: surging idle
 
check the plugs. make sure the plugs are hook up to the right sensor. I had the exact same problem you had. Didnt throw any CEL but i soon realize that i hook the plugs wrong.

FooK 09-09-2005 11:21 PM

Re: surging idle
 

Originally Posted by EG6Sleeper
check the plugs. make sure the plugs are hook up to the right sensor. I had the exact same problem you had. Didnt throw any CEL but i soon realize that i hook the plugs wrong.

id be surprised if thats it, this car's pretty untouched, but ill try that real quick.


nope, not it. all the factory harness clips and everything are so intact that none of the plugs will reach the wrong sensor.

i did however unplug the IACV and the idle smoothed out....but it idled at like 2000rpm.

could it be the IACV was replaced with another bad one?

88dx 09-09-2005 11:36 PM

Re: surging idle
 
Thats what you get for having a NA d16z6 ;) It still might be the IACV? Also Make sure you dont have any bubbles in the coolant

FooK 09-09-2005 11:39 PM

Re: surging idle
 

Originally Posted by 88dx
Thats what you get for having a NA d16z6 ;) It still might be the IACV? Also Make sure you dont have any bubbles in the coolant

ill bleed it in the morning before I head to woodburn.

hey steve, send me an IACV, i know you have one.

If I do turbo this car, I want B-series first and I have to retain AC, I don't want to cut this car up like crazy

88dx 09-09-2005 11:41 PM

Re: surging idle
 
Your a ----- if you keep AC.

FooK 09-09-2005 11:43 PM

Re: surging idle
 

Originally Posted by 88dx
Your a ----- if you keep AC.

its not so much about having AC, its about trying to keep this car nice. That's why I am hesitant to even modify it. I've got the truck to play with.

bumblezc 09-09-2005 11:55 PM

Re: surging idle
 
Idle Screw!!! I have had this problem 3 times before and it was one of 2 things

1st time: Intake Gasket was shot=a vacuum leak
2nd time: Fixed itself????????
3rd time: For my car a 2 others Idle screw backs out from the vibration, raising the idle. ECU sees the high idle and tries to achieve it's "Ideal" idle, over compensates, shots it back up, tries to fix it aaannndddd it's a viscous cycle!!!! I just use a dab of gasket sealant on my screw to glue it there and call it a day.

FooK 09-09-2005 11:56 PM

Re: surging idle
 

Originally Posted by bumblezc
Idle Screw!!! I have had this problem 3 times before and it was one of 2 things

1st time: Intake Gasket was shot=a vacuum leak
2nd time: Fixed itself????????
3rd time: For my car a 2 others Idle screw backs out from the vibration, raising the idle. ECU sees the high idle and tries to achieve it's "Ideal" idle, over compensates, shots it back up, tries to fix it aaannndddd it's a viscous cycle!!!! I just use a dab of gasket sealant on my screw to glue it there and call it a day.

damn, thats idea enough to go out and try it, even at 10pm


**edit***

but not the idea i need, didnt do a damn thing. idle screw still had that original greyish honda silicone over it, and was only turned out a little bit.

Civic4Sale 09-10-2005 12:37 AM

Re: surging idle
 
i wasnt reading earlier. But you installed a APEXI VAFC? What are your settings. I had that problem with the RPM. I think you might set the VAFC a bit rich. Try lowering the setting. And did you get a resistor box or resistor for those low impendence injectors?

Was the idle ok before you installed the VAFC?


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