Skunk2 intakes
Hey, they have these skunk2 intake and throttle body combos on ebay for about 450 dollars......
With the 70mm throttlebody would it be a dramatic diff....than the stock intake and TB?? Its on a B16a in a CRX Hf.... would it be better to have that with turbo |
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stock ported manifold and a matching throttle body much better choice for a street car
and oh my god I do that work skunk2=overpriced china parts that dont perform |
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What do you mean a ported manifold and TB.....???
I didnt know you could do that stuff..... How much would you charge? PM me |
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Originally Posted by chris
stock ported manifold and a matching throttle body much better choice for a street car
and oh my god I do that work skunk2=overpriced china parts that dont perform |
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skunk2 doesnt do any development nor any maching
they buy parts from china slap a name on it and there is skunk2 |
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the manifolds are pretty good but the tb's suck balls. they didn't to enough r&d on them before releasing them. plus their im's only come with a 62mm opening.
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70mm is way too big for a b16, unless of course you have a head that flows hella good and a badass exaust mani i would stay away from it. seomtimes bigger isn't always better :-\.
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Skank2/Hype-R manifolds and knock-offs are pretty much pointless on a more or less stock b16. Believe it or not, the stock b16 intake has a better power band when compared to a type-r on the same setup up to around 8k rpms, then the type-r/type-r copies usually make a hair more in the upper range.
Want to make better power from a b16a? Bigger cams and a nice set of valve springs (like omni's, they're excellent so far even for the replacement SiRII cams I got from Chris), a bump in compression (for n/a builds), and a slightly larger TB port-matched to the intake with the intake runners cleaned up a ported a hair. Head porting will get you some gains if done correctly, but you really have to know where to take out and leave material to make gains, otherwise you have a much greater chance of decreasing the head's flow. It's not as easy as people think to make power from a b16a unless you're boosted. :-\ |
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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Skank2/Hype-R manifolds and knock-offs are pretty much pointless on a more or less stock b16. Believe it or not, the stock b16 intake has a better power band when compared to a type-r on the same setup up to around 8k rpms, then the type-r/type-r copies usually make a hair more in the upper range.
Want to make better power from a b16a? Bigger cams and a nice set of valve springs (like omni's, they're excellent so far even for the replacement SiRII cams I got from Chris), a bump in compression (for n/a builds), and a slightly larger TB port-matched to the intake with the intake runners cleaned up a ported a hair. Head porting will get you some gains if done correctly, but you really have to know where to take out and leave material to make gains, otherwise you have a much greater chance of decreasing the head's flow. It's not as easy as people think to make power from a b16a unless you're boosted. :-\ Ya its amazing how many factory ported manifolds I have done for people then switched to for example like a skunk2 and went back to the stock ported manifold powerbands that can be used win races. 3hp gain at 8500 rpm's isnt doing any good |
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How much does cams...(good ones) usually run??
Is it a direct bolt on...? Or will I have to get the springs and such with them too along with the cam gears |
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Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
How much does cams...(good ones) usually run??
Is it a direct bolt on...? Or will I have to get the springs and such with them too along with the cam gears sir-II or 92+jdm b16a cams are a great upgrade if you have the old cable style which you do Im a fan of itr cams. Great idle. Easy to tune. Good power. Honda quality. |
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Originally Posted by chris
Ya its amazing how many factory ported manifolds I have done for people then switched to for example like a skunk2 and went back to the stock ported manifold powerbands that can be used win races. 3hp gain at 8500 rpm's isnt doing any good |
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Yeah he did mine up....im waiting on them to come in the mail.....
Whats the usuall gains with ITR's along with the mani and TB On another note...I jus got done lookin at some 99GSR cams with AEM gears.... said that those along with some crower valve springs you can rev out to 8600?? True?? How hard is it to chang out valve springs |
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crower springs/retainers will old 10,500 rpm's
and gsr cams will not carry power there. On a b16a your looking at around 8300-8400 before your just reving for fun |
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Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
Yeah he did mine up....im waiting on them to come in the mail.....
Whats the usuall gains with ITR's along with the mani and TB On another note...I jus got done lookin at some 99GSR cams with AEM gears.... said that those along with some crower valve springs you can rev out to 8600?? True?? How hard is it to chang out valve springs |
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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
The gsr cams really aren't much different than SiR2 cams, a tad more duration IFRC . The springs aren't hard to change, just so long as you have the proper tool to do it with...normal valve spring compressors just don't cut it in these deep b16/b18c heads. If you've never done b-series vtec springs before, I'd recommend taking the head and springs to a reputable shop and have them change them for you. Those little keepers can be a real bastard when the tool slips and they go flying. :P
yes the typical cheapo valve spring compressor isnt ging to do the job on the dohc vtechhhhhhhhhhhhhhh motors Those damn keepers. I recommend if you do do it lay down a clean white cloth or sheet has I will promise you will have problems the first time you do it and will lose a keeper or two and good luck finiding them in a mess |
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So id have to pull the whole damn head off???
I might as well get one already built if I do that |
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Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
So id have to pull the whole damn head off???
I might as well get one already built if I do that you can do it on but its a major bitch pulling the head is your best bet. Might has well get a nice valve job while the head is off and if the funds allow some basic port work |
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The funds arent good right this sec...but soon....
Whats the usuall price range for portwork and stuff?? Might as well go with over size valves....and other good stuff :y Id like a block guard as well... jus to be on the safe side Cant i jus get a head already done for the same price as all that?? |
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Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
The funds arent good right this sec...but soon....
Whats the usuall price range for portwork and stuff?? Might as well go with over size valves....and other good stuff :y Id like a block guard as well... jus to be on the safe side Cant i jus get a head already done for the same price as all that?? oversized valves are a waste of moneya nd only cause major issues with valve to valve contact contact me via pm if intrested in some headwork done |
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Originally Posted by chris
oversized valves are a waste of moneya nd only cause major issues with valve to valve contact |
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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Correct, and if not done properly can actually slow down port velocity. I honestly don't see why people want o-s'd valves on these heads...the only time they really produce viable numbers is with a large boost setup, or a rev-to-the-moon larger-than-stock displacement (i.e. above 2 liters and 10k+rpm). A well done port job will produce more gains for your money than o-s'd valves will.
well the problem is people install oversized valves but dont port to the larger valve basically making the work worthless not to mention any cam that has any kind of lift will kiss os valves stock and a nice valve job works |
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if you get any real cams you will need to up the compression to make any use of them. you gotta match the comp. to the cam and size other parts like IM and TB based on where you want your powerband location.
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Originally Posted by jdubs111
the manifolds are pretty good but the tb's suck balls.
Their TBs stick and generally suck. TBs: Best is a correctly bored stock TB which come up to 65mm, then Professional Products which come up to 68mm, then you need to come up with an adapter plate to run a 70+ mm LS1 or Mustang TB as most of the Honduh offerings suck or are seriously overpriced. |
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for that price you can get a edelbrock
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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
for that price you can get a edelbrock
edelbrock again is meant for big power set ups your normal run of the mill low psi street b motor isnt going to take advantage of the plenum of them |
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