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turbozexcrxman 07-05-2007 10:52 PM

Skunk2 intakes
 
Hey, they have these skunk2 intake and throttle body combos on ebay for about 450 dollars......
With the 70mm throttlebody would it be a dramatic diff....than the stock intake and TB??
Its on a B16a in a CRX Hf....
would it be better to have that with turbo

Guy-Fast 07-05-2007 10:54 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
stock ported manifold and a matching throttle body much better choice for a street car




and oh my god I do that work



skunk2=overpriced china parts that dont perform

turbozexcrxman 07-05-2007 11:25 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
What do you mean a ported manifold and TB.....???
I didnt know you could do that stuff.....
How much would you charge?

PM me

90dx 07-06-2007 11:02 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by chris
stock ported manifold and a matching throttle body much better choice for a street car




and oh my god I do that work



skunk2=overpriced china parts that dont perform

There ---- always been China crap?I was installing some camber kits of theres the other day and they were assembled like a SSauto part the upper brace on the control arm was on backwards :1 I thought they were decent ---- back in the day but all the ---- of theres i have touched lately has been junk.I have been using Blox intake manis etc now as they make all the same stuff for less and quality seams on par

Guy-Fast 07-06-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
skunk2 doesnt do any development nor any maching



they buy parts from china slap a name on it


and there is skunk2

jdubs111 07-07-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
the manifolds are pretty good but the tb's suck balls. they didn't to enough r&d on them before releasing them. plus their im's only come with a 62mm opening.

J-MAN 07-09-2007 03:28 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
70mm is way too big for a b16, unless of course you have a head that flows hella good and a badass exaust mani i would stay away from it. seomtimes bigger isn't always better :-\.

Slo_crx1 07-10-2007 02:30 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
Skank2/Hype-R manifolds and knock-offs are pretty much pointless on a more or less stock b16. Believe it or not, the stock b16 intake has a better power band when compared to a type-r on the same setup up to around 8k rpms, then the type-r/type-r copies usually make a hair more in the upper range.

Want to make better power from a b16a? Bigger cams and a nice set of valve springs (like omni's, they're excellent so far even for the replacement SiRII cams I got from Chris), a bump in compression (for n/a builds), and a slightly larger TB port-matched to the intake with the intake runners cleaned up a ported a hair. Head porting will get you some gains if done correctly, but you really have to know where to take out and leave material to make gains, otherwise you have a much greater chance of decreasing the head's flow.

It's not as easy as people think to make power from a b16a unless you're boosted. :-\

Guy-Fast 07-10-2007 04:41 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Skank2/Hype-R manifolds and knock-offs are pretty much pointless on a more or less stock b16. Believe it or not, the stock b16 intake has a better power band when compared to a type-r on the same setup up to around 8k rpms, then the type-r/type-r copies usually make a hair more in the upper range.

Want to make better power from a b16a? Bigger cams and a nice set of valve springs (like omni's, they're excellent so far even for the replacement SiRII cams I got from Chris), a bump in compression (for n/a builds), and a slightly larger TB port-matched to the intake with the intake runners cleaned up a ported a hair. Head porting will get you some gains if done correctly, but you really have to know where to take out and leave material to make gains, otherwise you have a much greater chance of decreasing the head's flow.

It's not as easy as people think to make power from a b16a unless you're boosted. :-\






Ya its amazing how many factory ported manifolds I have done for people then switched to for example like a skunk2 and went back to the stock ported manifold



powerbands that can be used win races. 3hp gain at 8500 rpm's isnt doing any good

turbozexcrxman 07-10-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
How much does cams...(good ones) usually run??
Is it a direct bolt on...?
Or will I have to get the springs and such with them too along with the cam gears

Guy-Fast 07-10-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
How much does cams...(good ones) usually run??
Is it a direct bolt on...?
Or will I have to get the springs and such with them too along with the cam gears



sir-II or 92+jdm b16a cams are a great upgrade if you have the old cable style which you do



Im a fan of itr cams. Great idle. Easy to tune. Good power. Honda quality.

sikcrx89 07-10-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by chris





Ya its amazing how many factory ported manifolds I have done for people then switched to for example like a skunk2 and went back to the stock ported manifold



powerbands that can be used win races. 3hp gain at 8500 rpm's isnt doing any good

stand by what he says^^ he ported my stock zc mani and TB and i couldnt be happier with the way it turned out!! cany wait to get it on and see where i set now.. oh and BTW b16's dont have any power anyway

turbozexcrxman 07-10-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
Yeah he did mine up....im waiting on them to come in the mail.....
Whats the usuall gains with ITR's along with the mani and TB


On another note...I jus got done lookin at some 99GSR cams with AEM gears....
said that those along with some crower valve springs you can rev out to 8600??
True??

How hard is it to chang out valve springs

turbozexcrxman 07-11-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
???

Guy-Fast 07-12-2007 12:36 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
crower springs/retainers will old 10,500 rpm's



and gsr cams will not carry power there. On a b16a your looking at around 8300-8400 before your just reving for fun

Slo_crx1 07-12-2007 01:27 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
Yeah he did mine up....im waiting on them to come in the mail.....
Whats the usuall gains with ITR's along with the mani and TB


On another note...I jus got done lookin at some 99GSR cams with AEM gears....
said that those along with some crower valve springs you can rev out to 8600??
True??

How hard is it to chang out valve springs

The gsr cams really aren't much different than SiR2 cams, a tad more duration IFRC . The springs aren't hard to change, just so long as you have the proper tool to do it with...normal valve spring compressors just don't cut it in these deep b16/b18c heads. If you've never done b-series vtec springs before, I'd recommend taking the head and springs to a reputable shop and have them change them for you. Those little keepers can be a real bastard when the tool slips and they go flying. :P

Guy-Fast 07-12-2007 02:54 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by slo_crx1
The gsr cams really aren't much different than SiR2 cams, a tad more duration IFRC . The springs aren't hard to change, just so long as you have the proper tool to do it with...normal valve spring compressors just don't cut it in these deep b16/b18c heads. If you've never done b-series vtec springs before, I'd recommend taking the head and springs to a reputable shop and have them change them for you. Those little keepers can be a real bastard when the tool slips and they go flying. :P



yes the typical cheapo valve spring compressor isnt ging to do the job on the dohc vtechhhhhhhhhhhhhhh motors




Those damn keepers. I recommend if you do do it lay down a clean white cloth or sheet has I will promise you will have problems the first time you do it and will lose a keeper or two and good luck finiding them in a mess

turbozexcrxman 07-12-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
So id have to pull the whole damn head off???

I might as well get one already built if I do that

Guy-Fast 07-12-2007 05:00 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
So id have to pull the whole damn head off???

I might as well get one already built if I do that



you can do it on but its a major bitch



pulling the head is your best bet. Might has well get a nice valve job while the head is off and if the funds allow some basic port work

turbozexcrxman 07-12-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
The funds arent good right this sec...but soon....
Whats the usuall price range for portwork and stuff??

Might as well go with over size valves....and other good stuff :y
Id like a block guard as well...
jus to be on the safe side


Cant i jus get a head already done for the same price as all that??

Guy-Fast 07-12-2007 07:31 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by turbozexcrxman
The funds arent good right this sec...but soon....
Whats the usuall price range for portwork and stuff??

Might as well go with over size valves....and other good stuff :y
Id like a block guard as well...
jus to be on the safe side


Cant i jus get a head already done for the same price as all that??




oversized valves are a waste of moneya nd only cause major issues with valve to valve contact




contact me via pm if intrested in some headwork done

Slo_crx1 07-13-2007 01:12 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by chris



oversized valves are a waste of moneya nd only cause major issues with valve to valve contact

Correct, and if not done properly can actually slow down port velocity. I honestly don't see why people want o-s'd valves on these heads...the only time they really produce viable numbers is with a large boost setup, or a rev-to-the-moon larger-than-stock displacement (i.e. above 2 liters and 10k+rpm). A well done port job will produce more gains for your money than o-s'd valves will.

Guy-Fast 07-13-2007 04:38 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Correct, and if not done properly can actually slow down port velocity. I honestly don't see why people want o-s'd valves on these heads...the only time they really produce viable numbers is with a large boost setup, or a rev-to-the-moon larger-than-stock displacement (i.e. above 2 liters and 10k+rpm). A well done port job will produce more gains for your money than o-s'd valves will.




well the problem is people install oversized valves but dont port to the larger valve basically making the work worthless



not to mention any cam that has any kind of lift will kiss os valves




stock and a nice valve job


works

dirtygsr94 07-14-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
if you get any real cams you will need to up the compression to make any use of them. you gotta match the comp. to the cam and size other parts like IM and TB based on where you want your powerband location.

Tom-Guy 07-15-2007 02:34 AM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by jdubs111
the manifolds are pretty good but the tb's suck balls.

Not really. The manifolds are ITR-clones, and the GSR units are completely fucked as it's just a reflanged B16 manifold which causes abrupt transitions at the flange rendering the manifold complete dogshit.

Their TBs stick and generally suck.

TBs:

Best is a correctly bored stock TB which come up to 65mm, then Professional Products which come up to 68mm, then you need to come up with an adapter plate to run a 70+ mm LS1 or Mustang TB as most of the Honduh offerings suck or are seriously overpriced.

rudebwoy 07-21-2007 05:49 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 
for that price you can get a edelbrock

Guy-Fast 07-21-2007 06:32 PM

Re: Skunk2 intakes
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
for that price you can get a edelbrock


edelbrock again is meant for big power set ups


your normal run of the mill low psi street b motor isnt going to take advantage of the plenum of them


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