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Old 03-22-2008, 09:13 PM
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I would try bleeding it first also, usually hard shifting seems to be more of a clutch issue but if the rest work fine i donno. I always put "anti-seize" on all my spline shafts before I install them so the T/O bearing can slide easily. too bad it isnt a d-series a clutch/tranny job is only like 10-12 beers, lol.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:02 PM
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I would try bleeding it first also, usually hard shifting seems to be more of a clutch issue but if the rest work fine i donno. I always put "anti-seize" on all my spline shafts before I install them so the T/O bearing can slide easily. too bad it isnt a d-series a clutch/tranny job is only like 10-12 beers, lol.
ur slow im done after like a 6er
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:05 AM
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you are sir can tell them to lay off the crack cause imput shafts having grease or not have nothing to do with the shifting, but more to do with a throw out bearing, clutchis going out or you have bad syncros
Hmm. If there is insufficient grease on the splines, the clutch won't move far enough away to disengage the input shaft from the engine. :1

It'd be like having to rev match every shift.
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:37 AM
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Let me know if you need a 3rd gearset... I have a couple laying around that are good, including syncros, selector sleeves... etc. Cant help you out with 2nd or fourth, but I have a few 3rd gearsets and syncros and ---- laying around. 5th gearsets and sleeve too..
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Hmm. If there is insufficient grease on the splines, the clutch won't move far enough away to disengage the input shaft from the engine. :1

It'd be like having to rev match every shift.
dude reread my post i said it had to do with the throw out bearing if there is a lack of grease the bearing would sieze due to heat build up, and rev matching will only align the syncros for easier gear engagement, even with out grease it will still move the full distance of travel you really need to not talk about ---- that you dont understand, he is having internal tranny problems, not a t/o bearing issue
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dude reread my post i said it had to do with the throw out bearing if there is a lack of grease the bearing would sieze due to heat build up, and rev matching will only align the syncros for easier gear engagement, even with out grease it will still move the full distance of travel you really need to not talk about ---- that you dont understand, he is having internal tranny problems, not a t/o bearing issue
Yeah, and I'm saying you're wrong. The throwout bearing would make a noise if it were bad, and he said nothing about any noise. Plus, as long as the bearing wasn't seized, greased or not, he should still be able to shift fine because it's still releasing the clutch. And since what I suggested, the clutch not fully disengaging, would be like clutchless shifting, you'd have to rev match every shift because the engine is still connected to the wheels.

Everything he's said (6" push to shift, hard shifting) is indicative of insufficient clutch disengagement. It's either a problem in the hydraulics, or a problem with the clutch or the input shaft needs grease.

Plus, you said Honda MTF is garbage, so you lose all credibility.
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Yeah, and I'm saying you're wrong. The throwout bearing would make a noise if it were bad, and he said nothing about any noise. Plus, as long as the bearing wasn't seized, greased or not, he should still be able to shift fine because it's still releasing the clutch. And since what I suggested, the clutch not fully disengaging, would be like clutchless shifting, you'd have to rev match every shift because the engine is still connected to the wheels.

Everything he's said (6" push to shift, hard shifting) is indicative of insufficient clutch disengagement. It's either a problem in the hydraulics, or a problem with the clutch or the input shaft needs grease.

Plus, you said Honda MTF is garbage, so you lose all credibility.
You are truely dumb or just ignorant you just owned your self, yes honda mtf is garbage in my book thats my opinion I have my resons to but there to complicated for your little brain to process, so your so smart tell me how im wrong cause you are the only one thats has posted this, not to mention you do not know how a tranny works in conjuction with the clutch assembly, input shaft never disengages from ----, what you think it pulls out like a **** from a vagina here since you need some schooling on this i will help you ignorant ***

Fly Wheels, Clutch Plates and Friction

In a car's clutch, a flywheel connects to the engine, and a clutch plate connects to the transmission.


When your foot is off the pedal, the springs push the pressure plate against the clutch disc, which in turn presses against the flywheel. This locks the engine to the transmission input shaft, causing them to spin at the same speed.

Pressure plate

The amount of force the clutch can hold depends on the friction between the clutch plate and the flywheel, and how much force the spring puts on the pressure plate.

How a clutch engages and releases-

When the clutch pedal is pressed, a cable or hydraulic piston pushes on the release fork, which presses the throw-out bearing against the middle of the diaphragm spring. As the middle of the diaphragm spring is pushed in, a series of pins near the outside of the spring causes the spring to pull the pressure plate away from the clutch disc . This releases the clutch from the spinning engine.



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Well I was going to bleed the clutch fluid today, but the bleeder valve won't budge. I tried a 8mm wrench and socket. Both just started stripping the valve. I hit it up with some WD40 so hopefully that will help some by tomorrow. This isn't some retarded crap like a left handed thread is it?
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time to bust out the visegrips
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Old 03-23-2008, 06:51 PM
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Its not the ------- MTF (and honda ---- is actually some of the better), its not the ------- Throwout bearing...... And Im pretty sure its nopt a disengagement issue or it would happen in all gears....

Originally Posted by Secondaries
Hmm. If there is insufficient grease on the splines, the clutch won't move far enough away to disengage the input shaft from the engine. :1

It'd be like having to rev match every shift.
:1

Wrong

Now that ive read the thread more thoroughly sounds like the clutch is done.... IF YOURE SURE ITS BLED CORRECTLY...


Trust me, Ive BATTLED H series tranny faggotdom
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