oil squirters
 

im building my b16 my oil squirters dont exactly fit and if i grind them out to where wiesco says they should be they are almost not even pointing up tward the piston. weisco said they should be.030 from piston skirt. A member of the forum said i dont need them its for cooling on the oem castiron piston. My mechinest also said he removes them and plugs the holes on the 2 mazda engine he has built. But anyway to the question now i know i dont exactly need them but this is going to be my daily driver with around 8psi daily driving and 15 at the track or the races. should i try to make them work or should i just plug them up and let what ever happens happens? has any one else built a motor and removed them have a problem with a piston siezing or so on? thanx for any help

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Two things:

- They are tits on a bull
- You only wish you had cast iron pistons.

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Lol...good line from a good movie...and yeah, they're pretty useless so go ahead and plug 'em.

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thanx alot

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I've done this before on my old b16 build, and had no problem I cut 1/8 off the squirters I used wiseco pistons.

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so a cut or a complete stopper on it. a cut sounds more reasonable? anyone have the same problems with vitaras and TT rods?

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Afaik they're not a D thing.

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dohc vtec thang

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lol i was going to cut them but for them to fit there almost pointing strait

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Squirters are a mixed bag. Sounds nice in theory. They can lower piston temps as is obvious...
On the flip side. They also almost never operate at the same pressure, the majority probably don't operate remotely close to each other after muhc running time at all. They can cause the oil flow to be unstable during throttle transitions & WOT.

And nobody that's anybody ever keeps them. They're always removed & plugged almsot regardless of the engine type. The dozen Toyota engine's that have them, the half dozen Nissan engines, merc & BMW's, VW, Porsche etc... Most of the time they get nixed.

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you dont really need them. b18a ls motors dont have them, and they work just fine. but the plug kit cost money. last time I checked www.theoldone.com
they had the plug kit

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for any reason they were mounted.. non vtec and vtec engines are diferents.. work differents..so..i would not compare both..i see more obvios if you run with forget pistons ..

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I've revved stock geometry LS bottom ends to 10K, no squirters needed. They are champs.

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the only problem im haveing is looking at my block built i dont know how oil will make it up there to lub good

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Oil flies around inside the engine. That's why they make crank scrapers. Even with a crank scraper you get plenty of lubrication in the bores.

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Here's a good reason to ditch the squirters...my friend Brian has a 92 gsr, had a stock b17a1 in it with some bolt on goodies but nothing major. He called me up one day saying his rings were shot and he was blowing clouds of smoke out the back, that sucks but whatever...it happens and he has no luck with Honda's. He took the motor out, sent it to a local machine shop for a rebuild. Guy building the motor calls him back and said he found out why his engine was smoking...broken oil squirter pissing on the side of one of the pistons. He said he compression tested the motor before disassembly and it was still in spec. All that trouble for one pos oil squirter. :P

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I'm not 100% sure but if your forged with iron sleeves you dont need them, but I built my H22A fully and I decided to have a guy custom build a set mocked off mine but have the tubing larger and with a "injector stlye" spray to them. I didnt believe what he was talking about till he had them made and hooked to a pressurized hydraulic system and when they sprayed it was a fine mist that shot about 2 feet. So I put them in but not sure how they act within a pressurized block. No so far no smoking or scarring on the sleeves. I had to pull the head to pull some debree out of the chambers"------- leaves" Thats what I get for running open intake.

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So i cut them all down and now everytihing fits perfect but the #4 boilt keeps cross threding its in tight but keeps spining but it is hard to move what should i do keep 1-3 and plug 4 or keep it inand hope it doesnt fall out and ---- my life up