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OBD0 Harness Question
We are trying to put a '91 HF motor/trans/ecu in an '89 Si. We used the engine harness from the HF originally but after it didnt start we realized the harnesses are completely different. I have an uncut JDM ZC harness laying around for some odd reason.
-Are the ZC and SI Harnesses the same? Other than the fact that its RHD obviously Which harness configuration should we use? (If you are wondering why we are ruinging an SI, It's because it used to be a drag car with a built boosted b16, and my friend wants to turn it into a dd. The car is rusty as ----, and the b16 is going in his HF CRX. Extra motor plus extra shell= free car) ---- this should probably be in Engine management. Sorry! |
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use the original harness that came with the car.
Fail to do this and you might as well build a harness by hand, it'll be quicker. Think of the power of three Three different years of harnesses 88/89/90-91 Three different models HF/SI/DX-STD Three different countries of manufacter Japan/USA/Canada Yeah, have fun! |
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
use the original harness that came with the car.
Fail to do this and you might as well build a harness by hand, it'll be quicker. |
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I fit a 91 DA engine harness to my 88 STD, it only took 5-6 hours. An hour of which was multimetering and taking notes.
Boy that sounds like my idea of a good time.... ::) |
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
use the original harness that came with the car.
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Yeah, the last time I was asked about an engine harness for an 88-91 I quoted $220 which is dealer cost. I get them from the dealer for $180. When asked if I could go through their harness and fix it I quoted $350. ---- that ----, it's a stupid waste of time.
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a buddy and me fixed a hacked up harness, the shop bill for labor alone was $1000 and I'll never do it again!
After trying to trace out what had been screwed up we cut every wire at the ecu and went one wire at a time. Mind you the kid tried the DPFI to MPFI wiring himself, then a local shop before coming to Tim's shop. Three people had over 25 man hours into the car. When Ryan and me started in on the car if you hit the brakes all injectors would stick open flooding the motor. Took use 8 hours each to get it right. NEVER EVER AGAIN will I work on someone elses hacked up wiring, I'll burn the car instead! |
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yeah, the last time I was asked about an engine harness for an 88-91 I quoted $220 which is dealer cost. I get them from the dealer for $180. When asked if I could go through their harness and fix it I quoted $350. ---- that ----, it's a stupid waste of time.
Really there that cheap for a new harness from honda for an engine harness. My 91 crx hf needs a new one badly. |
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Yes, sir. Or at least it is for 88-89 DX.
It's also one of the few OEM Honda parts you need to have your VIN number handy for. |
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
a buddy and me fixed a hacked up harness, the shop bill for labor alone was $1000 and I'll never do it again!
After trying to trace out what had been screwed up we cut every wire at the ecu and went one wire at a time. Mind you the kid tried the DPFI to MPFI wiring himself, then a local shop before coming to Tim's shop. Three people had over 25 man hours into the car. When Ryan and me started in on the car if you hit the brakes all injectors would stick open flooding the motor. Took use 8 hours each to get it right. NEVER EVER AGAIN will I work on someone elses hacked up wiring, I'll burn the car instead! lol if i swap the intake/fuel rail/injectors from my friends gsr to mine and its still fucked up im just gonna change the entire chassis harness :S |
Re: OBD0 Harness Question
Originally Posted by Mista Bone
use the original harness that came with the car.
Fail to do this and you might as well build a harness by hand, it'll be quicker. Think of the power of three Three different years of harnesses 88/89/90-91 Three different models HF/SI/DX-STD Three different countries of manufacter Japan/USA/Canada Yeah, have fun! |
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Originally Posted by wannabe
Thats what we were going to do, problem with that is the Si harness was sent to rywire and has been fitted to work on an OBD1 b16/ half the plugs are obd1.
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the owner of the car wants to sell the harness as a whole... and make another one work.
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wiring is one of the easiest parts on the car to do. ive probably rewired half my car back into the stock looming. and i went from dpfi to mpfi using the stock harness from the car.
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Originally Posted by 78NOVA
wiring is one of the easiest parts on the car to do. ive probably rewired half my car back into the stock looming. and i went from dpfi to mpfi using the stock harness from the car.
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Originally Posted by wannabe
Different strokes for ddifferent folks I guess. I don't have enought patience to do that but w/e. I guess I don't understand how anything on a honda d series to d series motor swap is hard unless its wiring....
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Then you should do a D16Y5 Type-R swap sometime. The wiring harness was plug and play, nothing else was.
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What do you think a D16Y5 Type-R is? :1
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
What do you think a D16Y5 Type-R is? :1
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It comes in Civic GXs.
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[quote=Joseph Davis ]
What do you think a D16Y5 Type-R is? :1 I thought you meant a d16y5 to a type r (ctr or ITR) My bad. |
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D16B5 = GX motor......I'm trying to buy the first GX/Y8 that was in this car.
LARGE FILES!!!!!! http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...utox/HART1.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...utox/HART2.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
D16B5 = GX motor......I'm trying to buy the first GX/Y8 that was in this car.
LARGE FILES!!!!!! http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...utox/HART1.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...utox/HART2.jpg |
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1 out of 2 isn't that bad...
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Originally Posted by wannabe
Thanks bone, I knew I wasn't THAT dumb... D16[size=15pt]Y5 is a VX motor, correct?
D16y5=HX I love me some vtec-e ;) |
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VTEC-E 2 > VTEC-E
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Originally Posted by Loserkidwac
D15z1=VX
D16y5=HX I love me some vtec-e ;) vtec-e valve cover on a d16z6 is always good times |
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
VTEC-E 2 > VTEC-E
OhZzzz Noozzz not JdM 2 STagE vtac!!! |
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The cam is also equal to or better than Z6/Y8.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...octanepeak.jpg Aside from the ARP rod bolts, it's a 100% OEM part longblock. No porting, stock Y8 IM with GSR TB, DC Sports header. |
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