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agy2k2 06-15-2006 10:00 PM

Need Help with GSR Swap
 
Hey everyone... I just recently got a deal on a 96 gsr swap. I want to put it into a 94 civic dx. Ive been searching but cant find a straight answer to this. People tell me I can just run the ecu jumper harness for obd1-obd2a. Some people say change over my distributor, alternator, injectors to obd1. And Ive also been told to just hook up an obd1 gsr ecu (p72?). Does anyone have an answer to this? Appreciate it!

stevecivic 06-16-2006 12:06 AM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
Just put the motor in with the 96 harness/dizzy/injectors and alt. Then use an obd1 p72 and you will be set.

agy2k2 06-16-2006 07:52 AM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
So my whole 96 GSR swap is direct bolt in, I just need to swap out the ecu for an obd1?

Slo_crx1 06-16-2006 09:19 AM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 

Originally Posted by agy2k2
So my whole 96 GSR swap is direct bolt in, I just need to swap out the ecu for an obd1?

No...it's not bolt in. Mounts are all going to be different, shift linkages are shorter, etc. I'm pretty sure the entire harness has to be changed as well, just use the original civic harness and add the pieces you need (i.e. knock sensor, spool solenoid, oil pressure switch). The idea of using the obd1 p72 is a sound idea, or you can chip a p28 as well. Don't forget the distributor has to be changed from an obd2 unit to obd1 as well.

Originally Posted by stevecivic
Just put the motor in with the 96 harness/dizzy/injectors and alt. Then use an obd1 p72 and you will be set.

I doubt this guy's ever done a swap...and do alot more research...ALOT more ::)

reactone 06-16-2006 06:13 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
You will need most of the gsr motor mounts. I hope you have them because they're a real pain in the ass to find for cheap. Honda-Tech gobbles them up like Ryan Champ gobbles up cock!

agy2k2 06-16-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
yeah i have the whole swap from the 96 gsr

stevecivic 06-18-2006 01:34 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
I have an eg sitting in my driveway with a 98gsr motor. Gsr mounts and shift linkage. It has the whole obd2 harness. All we had to do is wire in vtec,vtec oil pressure and ground to the ecu. Its running a chipped p28 now but it was running a p72. This is the third obd2 b series that has been in the car.

agy2k2 06-18-2006 02:18 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 

Originally Posted by stevecivic
I have an eg sitting in my driveway with a 98gsr motor. Gsr mounts and shift linkage. It has the whole obd2 harness. All we had to do is wire in vtec,vtec oil pressure and ground to the ecu. Its running a chipped p28 now but it was running a p72. This is the third obd2 b series that has been in the car.

hey i sent you a PM


anyone else have any other info on this? thanks

stevecivic 06-18-2006 06:29 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 

Originally Posted by slo_crx1
No...it's not bolt in. Mounts are all going to be different, shift linkages are shorter, etc. I'm pretty sure the entire harness has to be changed as well, just use the original civic harness and add the pieces you need (i.e. knock sensor, spool solenoid, oil pressure switch). The idea of using the obd1 p72 is a sound idea, or you can chip a p28 as well. Don't forget the distributor has to be changed from an obd2 unit to obd1 as well.I doubt this guy's ever done a swap...and do alot more research...ALOT more ::)

i have done plenty of swaps and can show you pictures if you would like of an EG with an obd2 engine harness on a 98 gsr running all of the obd2 stuff like dizzy/alt/injectors. i have got 94 and 99 gsr shift linkage sitting in my garage that are exactly the same. So if you say that the shift linkage is diffrent then what linkage does he need?

shanerv 06-24-2006 02:30 AM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
umm 90-01 teg shift linkage works fine they all have worked I checked the lenghts and they are fine. as far as your swap goes. use your dx harness and mod it for the knock sensor if you will run one and the vtec oil presssure and spool valve. you can use your obd2 dizzy just cut the plugs from you dx engine switch it with the gsr's use a gsr rear trannny top tranny and ac bracket and timing belt that should be it. enjoy

Slo_crx1 06-25-2006 09:06 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
My biggest thing is saying for him not to use the obd2 engine harness in an obd1 car...that's just plain retarded. You positive all those plugs from obd2 match up to the same ones for obd1? Or are you swapping the entire engine bay harness too? Obviously he's gonna run obd1, why not just stick with it and add a couple wires instead...would be easier. And plus, how do you get a obd2 dizzy to run on obd1? Thought there was something about different sensor setups in them... ???

z1guy 06-25-2006 10:16 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
the 94+ teg harness willl plug directly into the EG shock tower harness. use a 94-95 teg or 94-97 sol vtec drivers side bracket, the stock gsr rear bracket and trans side bracket, swap the ecu for any obd1 gsr ecu (usds, jdm, edm), axles and linkage from the GSR and ride. only wiring is vtec to the shock tower from the ecu. END OF DISCUSSION.

ghettoturbo 06-26-2006 09:42 AM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
the 94+ teg harness willl plug directly into the EG shock tower harness. use a 94-95 teg or 94-97 sol vtec drivers side bracket, the stock gsr rear bracket and trans side bracket, swap the ecu for any obd1 gsr ecu (usds, jdm, edm), axles and linkage from the GSR and ride. only wiring is vtec to the shock tower from the ecu. END OF DISCUSSION.

ive used the stock drivers side and trans mounts with a b16, no need for the teggy ones unless my car was a freak

z1guy 06-26-2006 11:15 AM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
nah, im talking mount brackets, not mounts.

ghettoturbo 06-26-2006 02:43 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
nah, im talking mount brackets, not mounts.

meaning the part that bolts to the top of the trans and the part that bolts onto the two bolts coming up off the mount by the timing belt...im saying i used those from my car and not the teg, only teggy part i used was the rear bracket

z1guy 06-26-2006 02:52 PM

Re: Need Help with GSR Swap
 
well, the B series timing belt side mount bracket is 3 bolt and the D is only 2. basically use the one that goes to the motor and either mount and the rear bracket off the teg w/ civic mount, i think we are saying the same thing i just have a hard time wording stuff. ;D


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