Re: msd 6a question
 

its worth every penny. and its not just for a nice idol. ( i think you mean idle ) it does increase hp, and gas mileage. but thats not important. its the idle for hundreds of dollars that's the key!
oh and.. you have to have one to have a valid opinion. :P

Re: msd 6a question
 

if you saw bermantors kit you would know what i'm talkin about on spending money wisely ;) that was my opinion towards him and only him.

so i guess i need to have a turbo on my car too, to have a valid opinion also. i'll remember that next time :-*

Re: msd 6a question
 

i agree. spending money wisely is the most important thing.
my broke ass knows this as my hmt setup shows. i luv the msd cuz i paid wholesale price. i couldnt imagine paying retail for those now.
<80 would be a good deal on ebay. cap and coils are very cheap. adding the msd tower to the stock cap is the cheapest way to do it.

here is a good write up: http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...tor/index.html

the tip is about $7 at summit and jegs MSD-8803

Re: msd 6a question
 

JD, my MSD 6AL was on a CRX for 2 years, a stang for a year, then on my car for 4 years.

Never a ignitor failure.

Re: msd 6a question
 

Noel's point towards Jeremy is that his money would be better spent on a nice FMIC and the needed plumbing. Then his turbo system will be complete. Until then, everything else I would think would come second. His car is coming along nicely.

Re: msd 6a question
 

Prove it.

There are multiple dynos where MSDs on Hondas have lost power.

Being attached to a Ford Product is the only reason it hasn't melted yet.

Ask Blundy about ignitor replacement circuit for MSD ppl, and about how prevalent MSD + ignitor failure is.

Re: msd 6a question
 

Okay, Hondas will lose power with msd.
nm

Re: msd 6a question
 

Maybe I wired mine correctly/different??? Only reason it's not on the car now, I did fell like unwiring the Z6 dizzy.

I did notice one improvement with the MSD 6AL, easier starts.

Re: msd 6a question
 

i agree. when mine was on my car it sure started easier and felt cleaner throughout the RPM band.

Re: msd 6a question
 

Here's a quote from VaporTrail on HT, he owns a dyno and tunes a ton of cars:

For that matter, I tune a ton of cars, too. I did the testing for Ghettodyne (which became kinda sorta TurboEdit, although Jason's brought it further than Mike ever did GhD), UD until v1.2, and have a number of hours of seat time with DFI gen 6 and 7, Hyundaidata K-Poop, two different flavors of Megasquirt, 1G DSM ECUs, and lately I've been walking all over USDM SE-R and Aussie GTi-R ECUs (same motherboard) (God, I ------- love Nissans). I've got a number of 400+ whp rides under my belt, and I'm pretty hip to ignition problems; with Honduhs, somewhere between 300whp and 400whp the inexorable logistics of the Tunerboy (tm) process makes reliable, consistant performance significantly harder to acheive. DIY wiring tragedies, and a lot of useless or mis-installed crap, is the usual suspect.

There are problems with MSDs in re lag between trigger signal and firing, and most notably dwell time - that multiple spark ---- is not the bestest idea evar, guys, regardless of OMG JDM IDLE QUALITY. The MSD 6A schematic is posted on the diy-efi archives/ftp. We can all have a rollicking good time discoursing on circuit design, individual component selection merits, and real world versus ideal performance of electronica.

Hey, on the subject of idle quality, ever try to add a proper grounding system to your car? I see 1,001 MSDs when I go to the strip, but never seen a proper grounding system aside from online postwhoring activities.

:P