mobil1 syn and a fram filter
 

Yes, I have read all of the 'mobile 1 sucks, fram sucks' thread/web pages across the internet but never really seen any pictures of anyone who seen it first hand, or could prove anything other than some science experiments from various whatever bullshit experiments they do.

Today I tore apart my stroked b16a that I had in Okinawa to find some immaculate bearings, and nice piston skirts and a sexy crank. I honestly expected the motor to be trashed. The cyl walls looked like they had been beat to hell, so why wouldn't the bearings/etc be fucked up? I really didn't expect the pistons to be in as nice as shape as they were.

also, anyone who ever ran with me in Oki knows my car was beat on. I didn't take any mercy on the car, It seen 9000+ rpms on many occasions, not to mention one night we ran half of okinawa flat out. I beat it for 2 years, it sat for at least a year before I bought it and this is what I found today.

I should point out that I saw that the oil pump had been reworked, the stroker kit is a toda kit...so I would venture to say the oil pump also has a toda gear in it.

I always ran mobile 1 synthetic and a fram oil filter. Ill let you be the judge. I will continue to run mobile 1 and a fram filter.

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How bad are the cylinder walls Frank? Just need a DIY hone job and slap the ---- back it or do they need to get bored or now? You just tear it apart to tear it apart or was the engine in dire need of a makeover? I see you got your ---- finally then. You better be tossing all your old ---- into this new hatch. ---- that fender bender ---- and just rock it.

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Why not use a mobile one filter cause there almost $10 bucks, suck it up and buy it, she treats you right, you gotta treat her the same!

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needs a hone.

;)
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wtf are you talkin about?

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She needs some boost love :6

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i have never seen a problem with fram. i have used them since my first car. and mobil one is to expensive

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you got dunlop spsports hiding in there?

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when my uncle raced the honda micheline series they ran mobile one in all the cars

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those are advan A032R's my friend ;) actually considering selling them.

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tell me theyre 205/55/16 or 225 and sold

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The idiots who bash mobil one are trying to find an excuse as to why the motor they built themselves blew up after 5000 miles. They are also the same idiots who use the wrong weight oil to begin with.

There is a reason porsche uses mobil one in everything they build. Its not because its the cheapest. Its also the most widely used oil in NASCAR :-X

Ive never had any problems from it and I run it in all my cars since 2001.

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Glad that ---- worked for you Franco.......


In my experience,

Mobile 1 is ----. Period.


REASON: My cams consumed my rockers within 1000 miles (Freshly built motor breoken in on dyno oil for the first 250 miles then switched over). Mind you this is a MILD camset and Supertech springs and retainers with ferrea valves... NOTHING crazy...Switched to royal purple and not 1 hint of any type of friction issue since. Also noteworthy: The oil manufactured in other countries doesnt HAVE to adhere to the USA'S gay ass EPA laws regartding additive packagews.

In the states, Mobile 1 is different than abroad. Would lyou like to SEE a comparison (witrh statistical data) done by an unbiased party????

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf


Notre the pressure load resistance....


Mobile 1: 1540.22
Mobile SYN: 6389.06

Royal Purple: 131,432.00


I know which one I want in my car.... but yyour internals DO look nice as hell!!!!


Everyone I know whom Ive talked to that has had the cam follower gouging issue that has switched hasnt had it happen again. NOt 1.... Mine consumed themselves with the Moibile 1 (and im far from the only one)...

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The mobile1 I got was 'stateside' oil that was purchased on base. The mobile1 oil that was at autobacs, stark, etc. etc. in japan was ALL in english. They had a shitload of different weights but nothing was in japaneese language. Different...id seem to think not. Reguardless I always purchased my oil on base, it was US based oil.

to your arguement, i've had the complete opposite experiences. royal purple absoutly sucked in my motor. I dont think I had that ---- in there for 1000kms...

and no, those A032's are 15's.

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I am always the first person to concede my opinion in the face of empirical evidence.

However, that being said, the oil test described in your link has some serious flaws.

1. All the tests were perfomed at room temperture, or a temp. not disclosed to us. Any multi-viscosity oil is going to react differently at different temperatures. That is the purpose of a multi-viscosity oil.

2. Mobil one is a 0w-40 weight, meaning its ------- thin at low temperatures, and is a 40 weight at operating temp. The royal purple tested, racing 51, is clearly stated to be the equal to a 20w-50 oil.

3. It is unclear if the opinion is biased or not. Since the test is flawed, it may be. But then again, we didnt see the test performed, and we dont know who they work for/why they did it. They easily spent $1000+ just to do this test, I dont know about you, but I dont have that cash laying around. Somebody paid for them to do this test. We dont know who.

Im not arguing with you Brian, just want a clearer view of the issue. I personally wouldnt mind a better oil, if its within my price range. I get Mobil 1 FREE. If there is a significantly better oil out there thats worth the cash, I would be convinced.

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I use mobile one 15w50 w/ the mobile one oil filter, its truely race proven!

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I hate that 'race proven' line whenever someone uses it I want to bitch slap them.

I can race a yugo. And lose. Does that mean that Yugos' are race proven? Yes. Proven to fail. :6

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Rotella T + Supertech filters for life niggaz

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+1

All you high dollar ------ make me sick.

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Did you break in the cam properly??? which cams??? you resurface the rockers before the new cam?

Alot of cam manufactures recommend shell rotella T for break in on the cams on due to the fact that it has zinc in it. I've always used it for cam break in and never had an issues. Crane says that they won't even warranty a cam if rotella t isn't used for break in. The fact that it didn't happen again it after you switched was prolly due to the fact that the cam was already broken in.

I highly doubt it had anything due to the mobil 1, porsche is the most ---- manufacture in the world, they wouldn't use it if it sucked. ----, they built a rotating engine dyno to simulate the oil splashing around in the engine like on the 'ring.

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Well after the 928 pile of fail I suppose they felt the need to make up for it.

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Little known fact: Porsche had Toyota's development guys come in (1996) and help them clean their ---- up.

Brian is no fool. With the ---- he's been thru on his car, I have no doubt it was broken in properly.

ALL oils contain some level of zinc. RotellaT just happens to have a decent content level.

Every engine is different and its likely that the clearances and tolerances of a modern porsche do not coincide with those of Spiker's H22. I also cant help but think that supertech cryo-treats their valvesprings, which may have had something to do with his issue. We really cant be sure now.


Back on topic, Ive been looking but cant find a decent true unbiased test of these motor oils. Pressure-resistance needs to be measured at engine operating temp. Most motor oils dont work effectively until they reach 150+ degrees farenheit.

Re: mobil1 syn and a fram filter
 

How about this:


I dont give a ---- what Porsche puts in their shitboxes, Mobil 1 didnt work (others have had the same issues with it and STIFF valvetrain) - and You dont resurface the cam followers in my opinion... Actually, theres NO NEED IF you have an oil that works..... Thats a fact.

It cost me a set of cams and exhaust followers... Breakin isnt applicable to used cams ... Lets just put it this way, The motor was ALL done correctly... lubed excessivily, and Im super ---- about ALL aspects of the car. As the car made over 620WHP for a good long time (over 10k miles before coming apart to check the pump failure repercussions) beaten all day everyday, Id say We did something right.... Even after seeing 12k on a misshift, breaking the pump and STILL beating on it it looked mint inside.

Engine was broken in and driven on organic oil for about 400 miles, changed then swithched to Mobile 1... Less than 400 mile later I noticved Vtec issues (as in almost a lack of it), as well as ticking, checked the valves.... They were fine... Followers were destroyed

Seeing as you havent been here long, and that I dont expect people to give a ---- about my build..... Lets just say this... I did a fuckload of research on proprietary synthetic additive packages (other than the Zinc dithiophosphate that is OBVIOUSLY a bennefit mineral). There are about two pages of discussion in my build hread about the issues, and Ive found multiple tests that DOCUMENT that Mobile 1 is FAR from the best you can get... EVEN FOR THE MONEY.

The statistics and numbers dont lie... I AM FAR FROM THE ONLY ONE WHOM HAS THE OPINION THAT OIL IS NOTHING MORE THAN A HT bandwagon. Well, I guess it could be a P car bandwagon too, but, as I have yet to be beat by a Porsche.... Im not much interested in what they use..... Its a Honda, not a Porsche....


Bottom line is this:
Since swithching to Royal Purple I have not had 1 friction related issue AT ALL... RP 1, Mobile 1 0.


And like I said, Im not the only one whos putting this out there


For a buck more a quart... Im sold, actually... Since a number of people uphere have SEEN what it did for my car, theyve all switched... SOme from mobile, Joshes dad runs it now instead of Bardahl, and a couple others from Redline....


Guess how many issues???



0

Its all good nig...

Im not trying to start a bandwagon... But the inside of my motor is RETARDED clean, and I havent had that fucked up issue again since I changed.... Thats enough evidence and proof fror me... I use good Oil filters as well, and change my oil at 1500 Mile interavals. There is NO reason my ---- should have failed with the Mobile 1... It did. I did something about it and have not had 1 Iota of a hint of an issue suince. Money well spent in my book

Dig?


LOL

Re: mobil1 syn and a fram filter
 

I had Orange Chicken for lunch.

God knows why.

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No problems with my Honda filters and Durablend here :)

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Youre a sheep in wolfs clothing nigga, thats why. :-*

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Rotella T 5w40
puralator pure one/motocraft

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THERE WAS NO GENERAL TSO'S niggar

nOW SHUT IT 'fOR I PUT IT IN YOUR MOM'S COOTER, ANUS, AND EVERY OTHER ORAPHACE SHES GOT

BALLIN'~!!!

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lol

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GTC>oc

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Glad you got your issues taken care of.

Walkout side, take off yor pantys and shake the sand out of them.

I've seen a bunch of engines blow up running mobil 1syn. Guy we know works at MB, grabs the ---- from his works, we had a bunch of rotary guys run it, and blew their ---- up within a few passes. They all said it sucked, blew their engine, blah blah, blah. Wasn't the oils fault, it was their own damn fault, ---- was way to thin for how their engines were setup. Seems that you did your research, checked out everything blah blah blah. But more than likely it was an issue with what weight oil you chose. Blame the oil, go ahead if it makes you feel better thinking the oil was the issue. Its easy to blame a bottle.

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Go ---- your mother.. I blame her for your fail.

Picked the wrong weight?? Is that the best you can come up with??? SRSLY???? Youre a ------- douchebag... I DO believe you said it, as most of your posts are ------- retarded. You have yet proven again you do not know what the ---- youre talking about... Take your bullshit, opinion and fail to St elsewhere queerbait.

You seemingly dont know what the ---- you're talking about - although you portray to know, you OBVIOUSLY dont .

SO fucktard how much experience do YOU have with the issues mentioned??? ------- moron.


Seems pretty ------- cut and dry to me.


Change oil, no more issue... Go die in a herpes flare up faggot.


The only thing I blame a bottle for is for your mother taking the load that produced you in her stank ---- instead of her ass, with the rest of your bretheren...

:-*

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Ok.
RIP>OCZC
FAKLAD
HTDHT
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DIAF
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I cant think of anymore memes.

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Ya i'm the fucktard. Ya i don't know what i'm talking about, lol. I can tell you this, i'm smart enough not to put some oil that was designed for engines with clearance's half of what i'm running in my ----.

Blame it on the oil, you make a stupid ass decision but its the oils fault. Your what like like the oldest member of this site, you should know better than to blame your own stupidity on something else.

I don't need to spew this place up with what i've done or worked on. I guarantee some of the stuff i've worked on makes more hp per cylinder than what your rocker eating pos car makes.

How many wallys you have in your garage??

and

---- You

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I expected better things out of you Mr Sewell.....


Jesus Christ, for someone who KNOWS SO MUCH you sure make alot of ------- retarded statements and just as well informed assupmtions. My car for a Honda makes power. Great power. Im pretty ------- sure Ive wore nitromethane more times when I was 5 years old atround my old mans ---- than youve probably gotten laid, so shut the ---- up.


Whatever twatstick....

Your mom makes more horsepower.


You fail. But you've allowed me a good laugh at your expense. Thanks


Just die. You STILLL dont get it do you. Fitting.... Id venture the only thing youve worked on with more power (Im guessing youre TRYING to imply T/F or F/C class ----) was limited to POSSIBLY filling it with Mobile 1.


Youre a ------- douchebag dude. Seriously.


And tell your mother I want my change.

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Your laughing and so am i,

You don't even have enough balls to say you fucked up.

You didn't pick the wrong ----, it was the oils fault. That mobil 1 sucks dick, plain and simple. You better send your resume into porsche and mb, tell them that you know how to chose a proper oil, and they need to quit using mobil 1 oil. Now they won't have a ton of oil related failures that they have to warranty. I'm sure they'd hire you in a second, give you tons and tons of money for saving them all the time and hassle.

Yeap i'm talking about T/F and Z/C ----. and yeap, i started out filling ----, wiping ---- off, but i got to assemble some ---- when we weren't at the track, i've had engines that i did alot of the assembly on go in the 5's.

Oh i bow to you Mr Oil expert, your car is so fast, makes so much hp. you are the man.

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---- a Porsche,

WTF does that have to do with ---- ive posted thus far???? Why do you insist on keep on bringing it up, it has jack ---- to do with whats being discussed. As for balls, ive got plenty, and have no problems fessing up to ------- up (evidently you dont know me that well which is fine by me). but me ---- my cams and ---- up??? My fault??? heh... Um no. Are YOU that retarded???

As the ONLY thing changed was the BRAND of oil (not weight like your cum soaked earlier post).

ALL Ive stated was fact. Mobile 1 10/30 failed... RP 10/30 did NOT.... Period (hence your assuptions being gay and wrong STILL). NOTHING else changed... Not procedure, not specs, not lash.....not anything but the cams rockers and oil. Its not about me being THE expert... Never said I was, but for you to show up and throw a whole bunch of assumption, and then "back it up" by more assumption... gay. FACT is that the Mobile 1 (once again SAME WEIGHT, did you get that part???) FAILED, as has your comprehension thus far. I sure as ---- read alot and found the answers to solve my problem.


At the end of the day thats all I give a ---- about. Its helped others I know solve theirs as well.... Ya, I must be wrong here :3

Id venture to say you probably have more experience withy T/F ---- than do I... I venture to say you DO NOT when it comes to our lowly litlle H camp motors... At least DEFINATELY not by the tone, or content of your posts... There too I could (and probably am wrong, I know whom you rub feathers with around here)

Im all for learning ----... and feel pretty confident tha I could from you, however your earlier blanket statement about how i blame a bottle for my problems, well thats pretty chickenshit (childish and gay as well) for someone who KNOWS SOOOO much...


SO expert.... Tell me how with the same weight oil (oh, and teh factory recommended weight since you dont seem to ------- understand) one vs the other in ALL OTHER CONDITIONS BEING EXACTLY THE SAME one fails and the other doesnt... Its not the oil huh???? I beg to differ.


Seems I get it fine, andd MS pays me fine... I wouldnt drive a Porsche if you gave it to me... Id sell it. Theres alot better options out there than A PCAR for that kind of money.

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Spiker every thread you touch turns into gayness, like how you touch Richard Simmons ------- and he gets an erection.

TOM is also a faggot.

That is all.

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Newsflash dildo...

I dont rightly give a ---- about what the ---- you think.....


:1

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This does not change the fact that you enjoy fingering Richard Simmons.

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Oh just ------- spit on it! Oh ---- yeah!