ls/vtec?
 

im thinkin about ls/vtec for my 91 hatch. i want it to be a strong motor so im gonna go all out on it. ive been reading for a while but still cannot deciffer if a b18a1 is exactly the same as any other b18 block. i know my bore is 81 mm and im thinkin about a 84 mm bore. was thinkin about stroking it to 1.9L and boosting it like that. its gonna be daily driven and possibly have some track/t-attack dutys too on the weekends. i already know what turbo im gonna get for it(t3/t04e hybrid from full-race most likely). im still reading up on some ---- though. sleeved block is a must as well. probally gonna get some golden eagle sleeves. arp head studs ftw, as well as rest of the bolts too. not sure about pistons yet. got a buddy that can do some custom pistons for me. let me know if there is anything else that needs to be done or ahve any tips to give.

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b18a/b blocks are the same. if you sleeve the block to 84mm it will be around a 1.9L no need to stroke it. Just get a good set of rods/pistons and ur set :6 if your going to sleeve it spend the extra $$$ and have it o-ringed and a step deck

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thats what i was thinkin too after i looked at what i said about the pistons. itll be a slow and steady process as i gather money and look for a better job :1 at the time school is owning me and work is giving me less hours(fuckers >:( :'( )

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Stock block+race gas FTW :6

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race gas sounds good. too bad its not available at every station around here. plus its expensive as hell. may 89/91 octane at 3/4 tank plus 1/4 tank race gas. sounds good. right??? :S

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So mix your own race gas :D http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octanebooster.html Alright, so maybe they're just octane boosters, but I've tried the toulene mixes and they seem to work pretty well :)

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Word, I bored my block out .5mm over, which with a b18b puts me around 1.86L. Hard to believe with just a .020 bore job.

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about how much do ya think o-ringed and decked would cost. im kinda building me a plan to get this stuff done. i still gotta get the crank turned. :P

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well, figure around $1000-1500 just to sleeve the block, then another $200-500 to oring it depending on where you are. dont forget to upgrade to a vtec oil pump, and if you plan on revving it over stock redline get the whole bottom end balanced. plan on spending atleast $1500 on machine work.

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oh its deffinetly gettin revved over redline :6 yet it will look like a sleeper for sure. the only thing that would give it away would be the bov(that is if i rev it to make boost, which more than likely will be all the time.lol :y). but sounds about right. who makes the best sleeving kit? i heard some bad things about golden eagle. im still doin research for that but not having any luck really.

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I would go with the golden eagle there newer style sleeves are suppose to be alot better then the older versions.

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is that so.....http://www.overboost.com/obs/product.asp?pid=20099
looks as though those are the new type right. i cant seem to find a website that is devoted to aftermarket honda parts.

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Yep I believe so. Havent ordered mine so couldnt tell you exactly.

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well i will continue to look into ---- as i stated before. any other suggesions will be appreciated. if anybody has parts they are looking to get rid of lmk about them. i may get them. the parts im looking for the most is either a ls/gsr/itr tranny and shift linkage. as long as its not broken but has minimal or some grinding. it will be rebuilt too. lsd is a must.

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haha...

"Are you tired of only having 7 pounds of boost on your $3000 turbo kit? Time to step up to bigtime power! Honda aluminum engine blocks can only handle up to 8 pounds of boost leaving you with a thirst for more power"

thats funny. all honda aluminum blocks cant hold more than 8 pounds. i hate that crap, just be honest about what your product does.

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yeah i noticed the bs it said too. jsut wasnt gonna say anything about it. a stock b18a/b should be able to handle 15+ with a great tune.......

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tru seen it done runs consistant times to

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the best prices ive seen on GE sleeved blocks was from Champ1320.com on HT

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heard and seen many 25-30psi stock block b18a/b/c bocks holding down for years.just ask jeff evans. he was as the races here in ny last weekend showed me his girlfriends car was a b18c5 with 30psi stock block not sleved said it makes 650whp on around 30psi. said it has over 300 dyno pulls on the motor and 2 years of racing. crazy. :y

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ive been thinkin though, why sleeve it really. its just gonna be a dd with boost. im not lookin to make giant numbers. even 300-400 on boost alone will suffice. if i wanna take my car to the track then ill take my trans am and run it. so no sleeve for me. just proabaly balance the bottom end, new srp pistons , golden eagle h beam connecting rods, rings of some brand???, build up a b16 head with vitira valves(sp), gsr cams, adj. cam gears, chipped ecu, custom turbo kit and call it a day.

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anyone see a problem with that??? or is it just fine to have something to rape on every now and then while driving. would be nice to have a dd that is faster than a rustang. i could just go the ls route, but then i have no mad v-tech yo(u guys get a kick out of that when someone spells v-tec wrong :1 ). but im staying ls/vtec if i can every save up some money or get a better freakin job............

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im thinking about this stroker kit. but i think 11.2cr is a bit to high for boost. does anyone think it will be that big of an isssue to run boost still.


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first off don't run SRP's they SUCK! buy some Wiseco's and Wiseco Rings... then some eagle H's if you want reliable budget and something better if your rolling in it. Next fill the block for peace of mind if you "need" it but Evans again is running 30psi 650+whp and 300dyno pass's and she's still holding together GREAT! If you want to sleeve though, I'd go with Benson Sleeve's out of Cali. And Vitara valve's in a B16 head?? I didn't know that was even possible? ???

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well im actually changing my train of thought about a ls/vtec. i can get a b18 head cheap at the jy right now. i can also get the ecu, motor harness, injectors, resistor box, intake, the works. which is pretty much the top half of the motor. it was in a frontend collision and the block looks like i got hit good. dunno about the tranny yet. its a 95 with a jdm front. hoods good but the rest is fucked. but ive been doin research and actually found some things and prices i like. so im most likely gonna stay straight ls with some boost unless i get a killer deal on a b16 head.

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well come to find out the damn cock sucker crushed the freakin car. he said nobody was getting anything off of it and it was takin up space. so i told him thanks for nothing and left. i asked another buddy of mine to peak around and find one for me, because he is also a jy dealer. i took a look at the wiseco pistons and they have two pistons boost ready. one set for 601 thats 8.3-8.6 cr and another set that is 573 with a 9.3-9.6 cr. which is better to use though? i always here lower cr is better for boost, but im only gonna run 8-10 lbs daily. im gonna try not to race it at all. just want some opinions on which set to get.