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Old 03-10-2005, 11:06 AM
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do you think if I was to use alot of grease and used a vise but held them perfectly straight and went very slowly I could get it done that way?
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Old 03-10-2005, 06:46 PM
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the vice jaws might "gall" the edges, but if you had someone else helping you (holding sheet steel on both sides of the jaws) i don't see why not!
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Old 03-13-2005, 03:49 AM
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dude jason i told you i can take them to school and put them into the press. its no problem and i got the professor there to guide us throught it. vice grips is not the way.
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Old 03-13-2005, 09:33 PM
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dude jason i told you i can take them to school and put them into the press. its no problem and i got the professor there to guide us throught it. vice grips is not the way.
you just said we would take the pistons off the rods.
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:50 PM
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The Vitara piston that you use for a D16 engine has the exact same pin as the D16Z6/A6/Y8 and most D series honda blocks, so yes you WILL have to make the bronze bushing. and its not .20 it shold be .175 off each side. I had different rods off different blocks and when compared to the SI rods (i measured all of them) the difference was always around .1754986 and so on, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TAKE OFF .20, Measure your stock rod first hence why he said these were not actual numbers. the actual numbers between the SI D16Z6 rod and the LS will be around .175 off each side
Vitara pistons are not full floating on stock honda rods. They wouldn't go onto my Y7 rods so I think the LS's might work without and modification. Also, if the LS and A6 have same size bearings why does the crank end have to be shaved?
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:19 PM
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The Vitara piston that you use for a D16 engine has the exact same pin as the D16Z6/A6/Y8 and most D series honda blocks, so yes you WILL have to make the bronze bushing. and its not .20 it shold be .175 off each side. I had different rods off different blocks and when compared to the SI rods (i measured all of them) the difference was always around .1754986 and so on, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TAKE OFF .20, Measure your stock rod first hence why he said these were not actual numbers. the actual numbers between the SI D16Z6 rod and the LS will be around .175 off each side
Vitara pistons are not full floating on stock honda rods. They wouldn't go onto my Y7 rods so I think the LS's might work without and modification. Also, if the LS and A6 have same size bearings why does the crank end have to be shaved?
the sides of the rod have to be shaved down a little bit.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:23 PM
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The Vitara piston that you use for a D16 engine has the exact same pin as the D16Z6/A6/Y8 and most D series honda blocks, so yes you WILL have to make the bronze bushing. and its not .20 it shold be .175 off each side. I had different rods off different blocks and when compared to the SI rods (i measured all of them) the difference was always around .1754986 and so on, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TAKE OFF .20, Measure your stock rod first hence why he said these were not actual numbers. the actual numbers between the SI D16Z6 rod and the LS will be around .175 off each side
Vitara pistons are not full floating on stock honda rods. They wouldn't go onto my Y7 rods so I think the LS's might work without and modification. Also, if the LS and A6 have same size bearings why does the crank end have to be shaved?
I know, because the stock honda rod has a smalled ID than the pin so it would be a press fit. but the pins are the same OD
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:27 PM
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So, you think the LS's will work instead, or will those need rebushed to make full floating too?
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Old 03-16-2005, 04:07 PM
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So, you think the LS's will work instead, or will those need rebushed to make full floating too?
Sorry, I dont understand what youre asking.

If you look in the original post, you have one of two options, you can make the bronze bushing so the pin is free floating or press fit, by using one of 2 different size reamers.

The vitara piston already floats about the pin, I would just use a 19mm reamer and press the vitara pin through the bushing in the LS rod, this way the only free floating occurs at the piston.
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Old 03-16-2005, 08:02 PM
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I mean, Vitaras are not full floating on my stock Y7 rods, will they be on LS's? I'm assumnig no and I'll have to get them re-bushed, which I will. I know Ls's are 2 mm bigger.
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