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ZC4ME 08-03-2005 11:49 AM

IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
Ok, here's the scenario. 2000 Civic DX 4 dr auto getting a 99 Y8 head. The owner bought a head without an intake and opted to go with a Skunk2 intake manifold and throttle body. The problem as some of you may know is, the y7 IACV is different. Besides the fact that it will not bolt up, it is a three wire unit (remember it is auto). I have a 2 wire IACV from an old DPFI manifold that will bolt to the new skunk unit, but my question is, can I convert to two-wire even though the car will stay an auto? I am going to be using the P2P-A92 ecu in the car. I know I read something about eliminating one wire and moving two pins around, but I was pretty sure this was also while doing a manual swap. Any help would be sweet.

Ravage70 08-03-2005 03:24 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
plug the holes and run the y7 tb
u cant run 2 wires on a 3 wire ecu
that 2 wire thing is for 2 wire ecus

ZC4ME 08-03-2005 04:01 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
Can't use the Y7 TB, he bought a Skunk 2 TB. He might be buying a brand new IACV, I also realized a little latter, that he has a VTEC solenoid from a Z6 and not a Y8. Things never go easy when non-mechanical people gather parts. :-\

Ravage70 08-03-2005 05:02 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
your only fix would be to go obd1 :-\
i tried everything on my buddies car for 3 days and it didnt work
have fun :P

ZC4ME 08-03-2005 07:32 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
your only fix would be to go obd1 :-\
i tried everything on my buddies car for 3 days and it didnt work
have fun :P

Umm, why wouldn't buying an IACV for a Y8 engine work? I mean, it's a P2P ecu from an auto ex, I don't see why the appropriate IACV would not work. The problem is, it's expensive from honda. It's not my money, so whatever he wants to do to get it done.

Ravage70 08-05-2005 01:29 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
an ex auto uses the same tb iacv as any d series auto 96-00
the holes are blocked

in other words the p2p auto uses 3 wires

SpankedYA! 08-05-2005 05:41 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
You need a P2P from a stick car and then use the 2 wire IAC you have. Just do the 2 to 3 wire conversion here: http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=3572

ZC4ME 08-05-2005 08:51 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
You need a P2P from a stick car and then use the 2 wire IAC you have. Just do the 2 to 3 wire conversion here: http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=3572

So it is ok to run a manual ECU in an auto car? I knew about the 3->2 wire conversion, so if he can run a manual ecu in an auto car, I think he will be set. I have a couple of 2-wire IACV's and my other buddy switched his 99EX to OBDI and is not using his manual ECU.


Originally Posted by Ravage70
an ex auto uses the same tb iacv as any d series auto 96-00
the holes are blocked

in other words the p2p auto uses 3 wires

What do you mean the holes are blocked? Not sure I understand that. I understand that all P2P auto's use the three wire IACV. So my original thought process was, get an IACV from an auto car with a Y8, like a 99-00 EX and it would bolt up to the Skunk2 manifold and still maintain the 3 wire plug-in.

Sorry guys, maybe I am just making this harder than it is or I am trying to simplify it too much, not sure which :-\ But your help is greatly appreciated.


Tom-Guy 08-05-2005 09:46 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
He means Y7 mani and Y8 mani are the exact same piece, only the IACV ports and bolt holes were never machined out or tapped. You can do this yourself with a drill, a tap, and some finesse. There are only two styles of 2 wire IACV made for Honduhs - at least for the popular B/D/F/H stuffs. Big metal cylinder body with a plastic cap on one end, and the other is a big plastic cylindrical body. They have different flanges, so you have to get the right one for the OBD2 cars - the plastic unit.

I know with OBD1 conversions you can jew around two of the three 3 wire IACV wires to get rid of the CEL, and then totally block off the stupid IACV and let TB stop and air bleed screw handle idle. I'm pretty damn sure you can do this with OBD2 ECUs, as well. You might have to readjust air bleed and throttle stop to get idle speed where you want it, but it costs $$$ and hours less to do it my way.

ZC4ME 08-05-2005 12:07 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
He means Y7 mani and Y8 mani are the exact same piece, only the IACV ports and bolt holes were never machined out or tapped. You can do this yourself with a drill, a tap, and some finesse. There are only two styles of 2 wire IACV made for Honduhs - at least for the popular B/D/F/H stuffs. Big metal cylinder body with a plastic cap on one end, and the other is a big plastic cylindrical body. They have different flanges, so you have to get the right one for the OBD2 cars - the plastic unit.

I know with OBD1 conversions you can jew around two of the three 3 wire IACV wires to get rid of the CEL, and then totally block off the stupid IACV and let TB stop and air bleed screw handle idle. I'm pretty damn sure you can do this with OBD2 ECUs, as well. You might have to readjust air bleed and throttle stop to get idle speed where you want it, but it costs $$$ and hours less to do it my way.

Hmmm, the car in question is a 2000 DX with a d16y7 and my buddy has a 99 EX with a d16y8 and the intake manifolds are COMPLETELY different. The y7 manifold has the TB that points up towards the hood and the y8 has the TB that points towards the passenger fender. The IACV on the y7 looks like nothing you described above. It's actually mounted to the y7 throttle body.

Ravage70 08-05-2005 11:26 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
listen ill make it simple

y7 auto/ man is shitter manifold aka toilet bowl
y8 manual plenum mani with iacv in the back side... 2 wires
y8 auto plenum mani with iacv on throttle body and 3 wires SAME as y7s

Tom-Guy 08-06-2005 02:19 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
listen ill make it simple

y7 auto/ man is shitter manifold aka toilet bowl
y8 manual plenum mani with iacv in the back side... 2 wires
y8 auto plenum mani with iacv on throttle body and 3 wires SAME as y7s

I think I got Y8 manual and Y8 auto mixed up.

Please pass the crack rocks!

ZC4ME 08-06-2005 09:50 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
listen ill make it simple

y7 auto/ man is shitter manifold aka toilet bowl
y8 manual plenum mani with iacv in the back side... 2 wires
y8 auto plenum mani with iacv on throttle body and 3 wires SAME as y7s

Bah, why didn't you just say that in the first place, LOL :-\ Crap, this really screws the pooch. Now I understand what you were saying when you said do the OBD1 conversion or use the y7 TB. I think he will be better off just selling the skunk2 TB and using the y7 TB. Then I can just make a block off plate for the IACV holes on the manifold. He wants to convert the car to manual later and turbo it, so he can just hold on to the Skunk2 TB till then. He still needs a damn VTEC solenoid for a Y8 head :-\

Tom-Guy 08-06-2005 10:09 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
He can still block off the IACV and fiddle the pins @ the ECU to eliminate CEL - the ECU doesn't know the intak manifold is funny looking. They don't incorporate the Funny Looking Intake Manifold Sensor (FLIMS) until OBD3, dog.

Ari, he's a friend of B16CRXT who posts here, has a Y7 IM and has done just that to his. Ask Chris aka B16CRXT if Ari's car starts, idles, runs alright.

ZC4ME 08-06-2005 10:51 AM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
He can still block off the IACV and fiddle the pins @ the ECU to eliminate CEL - the ECU doesn't know the intak manifold is funny looking. They don't incorporate the Funny Looking Intake Manifold Sensor (FLIMS) until OBD3, dog.

Ari, he's a friend of B16CRXT who posts here, has a Y7 IM and has done just that to his. Ask Chris aka B16CRXT if Ari's car starts, idles, runs alright.

Ok, I will have to look into that, thanks for all the info guys.

IntaCooler 08-07-2005 05:03 PM

Re: IACV help on Y7/8 mini-me
 
i hate auto iacv"s >:(


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