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projekteg 05-27-2003 07:18 AM

hydrolock??
 
i think i hydrolocked my engine this morning, but i'm not sure. i hit a deep ass puddle and then heard a noise that sounded like a fucked up rod or something, and then my car died and wouldn't start. my question is how do i know if i hydrolocked it? what usually happens/breaks?

davcivic 05-27-2003 09:09 AM

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When it happened to me, I turned off the car and pushed it home, then took out all the spark plugs. I could see water in there. I then tried to start the car, it will not turn on because it had no plugs, the you'll see the water come out. On my car, after this it turned on perfect nothing broke, even though it did sound like it did at the time. The car has been running fine for months. You might want to try that.

projekteg 05-27-2003 09:22 AM

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so you just took the plugs out and kept turning it over until the water came out of the spark plug holes? when this happened to you did it sound like it threw a rod or something?

sk8rmike 05-27-2003 10:32 AM

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things you can break are rods or the crank. pull the plugs and check for water. if you can see water in the cylinders, try to get some sort of vacuum to get it out and see if you can turn the car over after you get most of it out. i hope your car was hardly more than idling when you sucked up that water, because if it was spinning w/ any sort of speed you probably broke a couple rods.

projekteg 05-27-2003 10:36 AM

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damn, thanks for the good news :-[

davcivic 05-27-2003 01:26 PM

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When mine sucked the water, i guess I was lucky enough I saw the puddle and I let go of the gas while going over it. It did souns like something broke inside, rod or something. I even tried to turn it back on a few times, but it would not move at all like the battery was dead. That's when I did the spark plug thing, and after that, it turned on. Try it and let us know what happened. Also there's some type of carb cleaner or oil that will suck up or clean water. I did not use it, but after it happened some mechanic told me about it, that it could have help too.

projekteg 05-27-2003 01:34 PM

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thanks man, that sound like mine, it was a big ass puddle and when i hit it i pushed in the clutch and break, and when i went to put it back in gear i heard a "clank" and it just died and wouldn't start, i'm at work right now, but i'll let you know later, i sure as ---- don't feel like pulling my engine to replace some rods or something :'(

davcivic 05-27-2003 01:41 PM

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It sounds just like what hapenned to mine, Hope that's it and it gets fixed easy. It took me only like 10 mins to get all of it out, actually like 5 then I left it a few moree minutes open in the sun so any extra water would evaporated.

J-SMITH69 05-27-2003 04:20 PM

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i've done it to my old crx like 3 times. i just crank'd the bitch over and over until it finally started, then it blew tons of smoke for about 10 mins then it was alright. but you should get new plugs :)

shortyz 05-27-2003 07:33 PM

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were you guys running CAI's? or open turbo ?

projekteg 05-28-2003 05:47 AM

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well.... bad news, i went to get my car after work, opened the hood and noticed a "tiny" chunk (about the size of two of my fists) in the block in front of the #4 cylinder, do you guys think this is a problem or should it still start ::)

davcivic 05-28-2003 12:19 PM

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Mine happened with a CAI. It will be a problem. The car might start, but will probably run like crap, or not at all. I have seen people fixing blocks with jb weld. I've never done it myself. Maybe someone else here can help you further. After it happened to me I went and got the AEM by-pass valve, and it really works, I went through a bunch of puddles everyday, and never happened again.

projekteg 05-28-2003 01:14 PM

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i was being sarcastic, of course it's not going to start, witht a hole in the block, that's just the beginning of it it, if theres a hole in the block more than likely a lot of other ---- broke too. i hope your not being serious about fixing it with jb weld? anyways, thanks for the optimism ;D

davcivic 05-28-2003 01:40 PM

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If that's the only thing broken, I would try it, but of course there will be a lot more stuff messed up inside. I would not use jb weld to fix a block, but some people I know have tried and the car will run for a few more days then break down again. I have some cheap friends, that's why I suggested it. The worst guy had a 90 accord, I don't know how, he went thru 3 engines, 2 transmissions in about 8 months. 2 of the engines had big holes on the block after he was finished with them, that's N/A, just the regular I/H/E. He did try the JB weld thing.

J-SMITH69 05-28-2003 01:53 PM

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i dont see how you ----'d you engine hydrolocking it. i've done it to my crx multipal times. you have to crank it till it spits all the water out, then it'll fire. then you rev the bitch until all the extra gas gets burnt.

projekteg 05-28-2003 01:59 PM

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i don't know how either, but i wish i had you guys' luck. now i probably have to sell my turbo kit just to get a new engine the mother fucker had 199,989k miles on it and i was getting all stoked cause i've never had a car go over 200k miles, :'( so ------ close

J-SMITH69 05-28-2003 02:04 PM

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how is a tiny chunk TWO of your fists lol. my fist is about the size of a softball.

projekteg 05-28-2003 02:07 PM

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that's where the sarcasm comes into play :P

J-SMITH69 05-28-2003 02:10 PM

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somethin else musthave broken it, hydrolock is just like killing your engine cause it can't get air. but hell what do i know. mostly nothing

projekteg 05-28-2003 02:16 PM

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i was reading up on it and it said the water gets in your cylinders and can raise your compression to like 1000 psi., i think i had a bad case of the hydrolock ;D

HMT-Admin 05-28-2003 03:08 PM

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Yup, especially if you are off the throttle, the chamber will quickly fill with water and cannot burn out. My guess is when johnny runs over these puddles, he is at WOT, and most of the ---- burns right through, and he continues to hold the car at WOT, lol, most of it will burn right out. You would be suprised how much water can be sucked in a engine and not hurt it. But it has to be done at WOT, or 3/4 otherwise it will hydrolock and break internals. a hole off the side of the block? ouch, definatly junk now, lol. But you could start it if you wanted, I had 2 holes in a block once and I started it, sounded really bad and all my neighbors came out to see what all the noise was, heh.

Well, if its D-series consider it not to big of a loss, they are cheap.

Jeff

MR_DR_PEP 05-28-2003 03:26 PM

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dang, that sucks :(

J-SMITH69 05-28-2003 05:08 PM

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acually i went through the huge puddle at hardly any throttle, and at like 10mph. and the car stoped instantly.

all i did was crank it a bunch until it finally started. then ran all the extra gas out and it was fine.

still has the same plugs if i'm not mistaken.

maybe the d15a3 internals are stronger? maybe i got lucky three times? i dunno.

quadnie 05-29-2003 07:27 PM

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Well I think attempting to keep trying to crank it after it had all the water build up inside the motor was not good, usually after hitting thru a bunch of water it's best to take out the plugs, get the rest of the water out, then do about 3 OIL CHANGES. I have been out in the middle of nowhere with my 4x4, and run thru a good 4 feet of water (sometimes more), usually in first gear, of course WOT. It's amazing how I can get the water over the hood of a full size large truck (k-5 Blazer).

arpa 05-30-2003 12:21 AM

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I've almost hydrolocked my motor a good 15-20 times, god damn aem cai. ;D I always just try to keep it running without it bogging so low that it dies, only thing I have ruined so far is an o2 sensor *knocks on wood*, just sharing my experience 8)

Turbo90Accord4DR 05-30-2003 01:49 AM

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I hydrolocked my 250 about 2 years ago, i was running through this little river thing and hit a ------- big ass rock dumped the bike and thr throttle got suck Wide open and it just broke, the crank and the rod, ------- suxed

hydrokracker 05-31-2003 03:52 AM

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Great suggestion for all you n/a guys DON'T RUN CAI'S!! the extra .005HP it says it adds is not worth the risk of hydrolocking your motor. I have seen at least 4 motors come into my friend's shop in the last 5 months that have been hydrolocked and completely screwed. in one of them 3 of the 4 rods had gracefully exited the block allowing the pistons to give love taps to 8 of the 16 valves and the top of the chambers. the remaining piston and rod using its inertia of pursuasion to crack the crank in 2 places. After seeing that I'd rather have air that is 10-15 degrees warmer and dryer than having water come right up into my engine.

turbohf 05-31-2003 02:02 PM

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good point, but i have a better one: why the ---- are you guys driving into lakes???


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