How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
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How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
I know the releative basics apply to any honda motor, b16, b18, etc. But how does one make power out of a b16 when you're limited to the work you can do to it? Basicly this is the scenario. One of my friend's has a del-sol vtec he wants to run ustcc, and with both of us having b16's currently, we're exploring how we can stretch the power limits of this motor with limited mods being performed as per ustcc rules. Basicly it breaks down like this...you cannot increase the displacement except by an overbore as required for rebuild purposes, you can do headwork but you're not allowed to run aftermarket cam profiles and such, you must retain stock intake manifold but you are allowed an intake and header and exhaust. You can change your compression though and you can run aftermarket ecu management like Crome or BRE. Pretty much it looks like p30's, a shave job, and some serious port work are about the only thing that'll help pump out some more ponies, anybody else have any insights to perhaps be able to coax 170hp out of one of these to be able to keep up with the competition?
#2
Re: How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
run second gen b16a cams....more agressive then 1st gens but not wild like type R's.....and they are stock components for ur b16a i guess u could say.....a mean flowbench head port an polish an 3 angle valve job would be up next.....can u port out the stock intake mani an TB? i mean other then that look at lightening a few things up.Like maybe go with a Civic R crank pulley and a lighter crank if it's allowed.
Classes like that really want everyone to be at equal levels so it boils down to driver and car setup...those classes are fun to run in...i would look at suspension more then worry to much about engine work...
Classes like that really want everyone to be at equal levels so it boils down to driver and car setup...those classes are fun to run in...i would look at suspension more then worry to much about engine work...
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Re: How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
Originally Posted by joebowlr21
run second gen b16a cams....more agressive then 1st gens but not wild like type R's.....and they are stock components for ur b16a i guess u could say.....a mean flowbench head port an polish an 3 angle valve job would be up next.....can u port out the stock intake mani an TB? i mean other then that look at lightening a few things up.Like maybe go with a Civic R crank pulley and a lighter crank if it's allowed.
Classes like that really want everyone to be at equal levels so it boils down to driver and car setup...those classes are fun to run in...i would look at suspension more then worry to much about engine work...
Classes like that really want everyone to be at equal levels so it boils down to driver and car setup...those classes are fun to run in...i would look at suspension more then worry to much about engine work...
ITR cams if they'll let you swing it, if not then in theory the 2nd gen cams do have the largest lift and duration aside from the r cams i believe. Will they let you knife edge the crank? How about you throw another set of inner valve springs on the exhaust side so all of them are double wound.
oh wait i got the answer... Turbonator
#6
Re: How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
Originally Posted by joebowlr21
run second gen b16a cams....more agressive then 1st gens but not wild like type R's.....and they are stock components for ur b16a i guess u could say.....a mean flowbench head port an polish an 3 angle valve job would be up next.....can u port out the stock intake mani an TB? i mean other then that look at lightening a few things up.Like maybe go with a Civic R crank pulley and a lighter crank if it's allowed.
Classes like that really want everyone to be at equal levels so it boils down to driver and car setup...those classes are fun to run in...i would look at suspension more then worry to much about engine work...
Classes like that really want everyone to be at equal levels so it boils down to driver and car setup...those classes are fun to run in...i would look at suspension more then worry to much about engine work...
As far as cam options, I'm really not sure if we could get away with itr/ctr cams. Gsr cams maybe, but it'll definately suck if they decide to huff the motor. You're allowed port work on the intake and tb as well, so it's definately worth looking into.
#8
Re: How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
Originally Posted by chris
imo you of tons of options
can you run an aftermarket throttle body or only re bore the factory unit
can you run an aftermarket throttle body or only re bore the factory unit
#9
Re: How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
I do believe you can run an aftermarket tb, although most guys seem to go with an overbore of the stock unit and port-match the intake plenum.
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Re: How does one make n/a hp from a b16?
Yank that head off and mill .040" off of it, itr cams, 3 angle valve job, upgraded valve train, rev that ****** out to 10000rpm to make 105ft/lb's of torque
Id bet your looking for lower end power though
Id bet your looking for lower end power though