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91rexBUG 02-25-2003 11:21 PM

hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
oh my god...i just went to that 3geez.com website and its all about the 3rd generation accord....those ppl love the b20a5 3rd gen lude motor...man i swear those engines suck balls...someone needs to give them some advice and move up to par like we have here and get a b16 or a b18 motor...those b20a motors dont have ----....maybe i should go to the junkyard and grab some complete b20a swaps out of some ludes and sell them on that site...see how much money i could make...lol

smufguy 02-25-2003 11:25 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
u got it wrong again dude. Its not the B20A5 from the lude. Its the B20A motor. It has a stock of 160hp and 140ft-lbs.

you think we are kidding around with that site and we are dumb huh? the B20A5 and the B20A have totally different bolting patterns and they B20A5 WILL NOT drop in the 3rd gen like the B20A does.

B20A looks exactly like the 3rd gen B20A5 lude motor, but if u look closly u will find the differences in the JDM and the USDM engine. The cam gears are much larger in the B20A compared to the B20A5. also do know that the parts are interchangeable.

ONE THING: Do not underestimate that site my friend. There is a lot of knowledge in that site that will overwhelm you.


there are a lot of people with B16 and some with B18 swaps. Also note that ppl run on webber carbs, that can give you run for ur money.

smufguy 02-25-2003 11:30 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
read this http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5907

you will know what i am talkig about. You did stir up something in me buddy ;D :)

91rexBUG 02-25-2003 11:30 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
yeah i seen some ---- bout b20a motors but then i seen a section bout b20a5 lude motors and im like ok why would anyone want that engine and they seemed to go crazy over it...but anywho...ppl who use the b20a5 got problems...i meen its alright if u just something bigger...but u can put an LS motor in there for cheaper and get more power....so more luck to the ppl who use the b20a5....i never knew there was a b20a jdm motor...damn...aint that something...160hp...oh well...lata

so i stand corrected

smufguy 02-25-2003 11:38 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
you know how Newbies are. Most of them wanna ask the same darn stupid questions and never wanna use the damn search buttom. but u see the A20 and the B20 are the both 2.0L as u can see but the B20XX being a DOHC has a upper hand. But with mods even that shitty B20A5 can be made a monster. But with a cast iron block, ur pretty much given a small circle to work with.

no one can use the B20A5 motor. it just wont fit in and not to mention the custom motor mounts made for it.

Also, only place racing makes B16 mounts for a 3rd gen so we guys are pretty much set for B16 conversions and some B18 swaps. but u know, we are also looking for a lilttle bit more torque at a decent rpm.

Grant2k 02-25-2003 11:56 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
what's up Praveen. i just stopped by when i saw your post on 3geez and i had to come see what this whole thread was.

it's funny that you, 91rexBUG thought you were gonna talk behind people's backs and you got found out. what the hell? how would you like it if we were saying ---- behind your back? don't knock stuff till you are informed about it. i'll probably never be back on this forum, so Praveen, i'll see you on 3geez.

MR_DR_PEP 02-26-2003 01:03 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
Want to see a turbo B20? This sucker is up to 370+ horse power at 12psi... AH! It doesn't say 12psi on that site, but I found another related link to that site that said it was. That's power! Think of having that in a rex.

http://www.hondata.com/dyno372turboimportbuilders.html


shortyz 02-26-2003 01:18 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
dr pep. i think that dyno chart is for a b20b/z not a b20a or b20a5..

MR_DR_PEP 02-26-2003 01:21 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
Yes I know, but it shows you what it's cabable of doing.

EDIT: It was 12.5 pounds of boost with a T3/T4... looked it up. It's an 11 sec car.

shortyz 02-26-2003 01:24 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
the b20a5 is a bag o ass and u cant compare it to a b20b/z
they are totally differant.

MR_DR_PEP 02-26-2003 01:28 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
yes it is... If I was doing a b20 setup I would do this:

CRV B20B
99+ CRV B20Z pistons
rods, etc.

I like the torque! I hear it really puts you back in the seat.

J-SMITH69 02-26-2003 05:23 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
oh god, 4 cyclinder tourqe? pushing you back? are you joking me rofl.

88crxSi 02-26-2003 08:49 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 

Originally Posted by MR_DR_PEP
yes it is... If I was doing a b20 setup I would do this:

CRV B20B
99+ CRV B20Z pistons
rods, etc.

I like the torque! I hear it really puts you back in the seat.

funny, no mention of a b20a5???

smufguy 02-26-2003 03:38 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
well how about a A20A3 turbo that runs 11.9s. You do know A20 is a SHOC right? IF we can do that to a Single cam, a DUal cam is a lot of freedome. given. 8)

Semnos 02-26-2003 04:44 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
What about the B20A1?
Seen it in a yunkyard.
Maybe the same as the B20A5?

smufguy 02-26-2003 07:00 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
there are a lot of B20s out there and also B20A7 in England and a member from our forum got it, which as u can guess is on a 4WS lude.

One thing strait. The B20A motor comes out of the 3rd generation (86-89) Accord 2.0SI and 2nd generation (84-87) Prelude 2.0SI. Do know these are JDM so u cant find them in ur junkyard in the US.

Here is the spec on that B20A motor

1958cc (2.0L) DOHC 16V Non-vtec
Bore and stroke: 81mm X 95mm
Compression: 9.4:1
Power output: 160HP@6300RPM
Torque output: 137ft-lbs@5000RPM
Manual tranny gear ratios:
1st- 3.166
2nd- 1.857
3rd- 1.259
4th- 0.967
5th- 0.794
R- 4.066

91rexBUG 02-26-2003 08:05 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
look...i wasnt really lookin too hard bout this jdm b20a motor....but let u know that the b20a5 lude motor has a shitty stroke to rod ratio and anyone who wants to compare a b20z/b motor to the b20a5 motor has got problems....serious problems at that...and on top of that the thing doesnt bolt into ---- besides the 3rd gen lude...ill have to agree with my crx buddies here on this site....u can stick with ur accord....oh and i raced one of those 89 accords one time with my old 3rd gen lude and i smoked the ---- out of him....badly like there was no tomarrow....told him he needed a swap or something....or another car....heard he got rid of it and got a crx!!!!...lol...anywho.....im not bad mouthing this jdm b20a motor...im bad mouthing anyone who puts a 3rd gen lude b20a5 motor into there cars....and im definatly not a newbie....

smufguy 02-26-2003 09:01 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
i know what u mean 91rexBUG. That newbie talk was not towards you, it was towards newbies on the 3g site who see the name B20 and keep asking about the B20A5 motors.

i gotta agree with you. COnsidering the weight to Hp ratio for these 3g accord is as worse as it can get. The carb motor can crank up only 98hp at the crank. and sadly, no one makes aftermarket parts to make it go a little faster.

This is a cool site and amazing forum u guys have got here for yur civics. all i can say, is you guys are lucky and that is extremely lucky. i am really searching for someone who makes or would make anykinda turbo set up for a decent price that runs around the same price for the civics.

even the mounts for a B16 is hella expensive. You gotta spend atleast 1200K for just the 3 engine mounts and a wiring adapter, which sadly needs to be sent to Place racing for them to make it. Thats how poor our car is.

ITs funny how they would make soo much for even the 2nd and 3rd gen civics and ludes, but not a lot for 3rd gen accords. Its a honda too :(

sean2133 02-26-2003 11:51 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
1200K eh? So thats like 1,200,000? That IS a lot for motor mounts ;D

J-SMITH69 02-27-2003 12:04 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 

This is a cool site and amazing forum u guys have got here for yur civics. all i can say, is you guys are lucky and that is extremely lucky. i am really searching for someone who makes or would make anykinda turbo set up for a decent price that runs around the same price for the civics.
this site isn't all about civics, or crx's. its about turbocharging all cars and engines. most people have civics cause they are cheap and are good economy cars.

i know what you're saying about the 3rd gen accords, there isn't a big aftermarket for them, so most of the ones you see a really riced out

HMT-Admin 02-27-2003 01:35 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
http://www.shortyz.net/pooponBseries.jpg

haha

Semnos 02-27-2003 02:45 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
What about the B20A1?
Is it any good, or should I poop on it too? :P

CRXzc903 02-27-2003 10:04 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
poop on it.

Dane

Semnos 02-27-2003 10:08 AM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
Ok done it hehehe ::)

91rexBUG 02-27-2003 12:42 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
see....its like this....if i were gonna do a b20b/z i would do a CR-VTEC so that baby would push some #'s and then i would turbo the ---- out of it...now as for 1200 bucks for B series mounts & the adapter...damn thats expensive...when i had my 3rd generation prelude...the H mounts were 575 for all 3 of them...wiring harness was cheap i think...but me i would get ghetto and find out what every wire was and bust out the ole electrical tape and wire it up the hard way. and as for 3rd generation preludes...they dont make ---- for them otherwise i would have kept the beast....cause i loved it no doubt but it had to go cause there is no suspension or braking parts or even internal motor parts alone...not a damn thing and what i did find was made cheaply....and then i found out that i couldnt swap another B series motor in there cause the mounts were placed differently in there wierd....oh well...the only car honda seemed to do ---- right for was the civic/crx....damn i wish they would bring back the crx...oh well im talking to much now so im gonna go.

smufguy 02-27-2003 01:23 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
you see thats the problem, we got no mounts for a B20B/z or anyother motor. All we have is the mounts for a B16 and i dont know if we do have one for B18.

B20A is our preference becuase its better than our A20 in a lot of ways and getting a 160 hp than a 120 hp is a better choice. Besides, we drive that 3g cause its what we can afford and like.

HMT-Admin 02-27-2003 02:34 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
B16/B18/B20b/z mounts will all work the same guys..

The tranny dictates 2 of the mounts, and the engine only has 1 and its the same for most b-series.

Jeff

91rexBUG 02-27-2003 02:44 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
well if u cant find mounts....heres what i would do...get a welder who knows what he is doing...someone like my stepdad...he is a certified nuclear welder....and have them weld that bitch into place....lol

HMT-Admin 02-27-2003 03:02 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
welding is the easy part.. its placement of how the motor sits, needs to be just right if you want the linkage, axles etc all the work correctly.

Jeff

TurboEF9 02-27-2003 05:08 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
Are we still talking about this raggedy motor? ;D

I went through 3 of them!!!! I love the darty look of the 3g Lude, but crap, that engine sucks.

smufguy 02-28-2003 04:20 PM

Re:hahaha b20a5 crazy
 
The whole point of this thread was someone saying that we 3rd gen drivers were wanting B20A5 and i defended it saying its not true cause there was a newbie in 3geez.com who was asking about the B20A5 engine for an engine swap which he actually mistread the B20A engine. LIke i gave the specs fot that JDM B20A. Its hard to find one with a good manual tranny cause almost 98% shipped to US are only Auto trannies and that goes for shipment to Canada too. Most of the parts are interchangeable like the camshafts and what not from the lude B20A5 to the B20 motor.

So far, there are 4 people with that swap, One guy in the process of it and one guy in UK running that b20 on his stock carb set up.


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