H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Well my car is due for a tune up after the dyno run. The guy stated that I may need colder plugs, I know that plugs opperate best at 700 degrees, and my plugs look a smidge on the black side with a AFR at 11.3 at WOT from 4.5K on up. So we installed a new set gapped at .45 and let the boost go two 28psi from the initial tune of 18psi at 392hp, I made 473hp but it blew a little black smoke out the exhaust "Too RICH". We then measured the heat soak on the motor and it read around 170' on the intake mani. Let it cool for about 30 min then done another run but set a lil leaner to when the AFR dipped then spiked out at the again 11's and lost torque at the 5200rpm mark. Checked the plugs and still a black haze on them. HERE's the Question????? Should the plugs have a slight hint of white on them even if runing Leaded CAM2 110 oct race fuel. Light down the spark plug holes show alot of black sut sittin on top of the pistons. NEVER HAD KNOCK BTW. WHAT the part Number for the colder plugs for a H22A. I found a set around $87 but they dont list the part number just say 2 steps down from stock. A lil help and a ---- hair of hazing will be appreciated.
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
are you sure taht the gap isnt to big? thats almost twice my gap and im runnin a smaller set up. i may be wrong though
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What is your gap set at and is it a H22A closed deck? I still need help after 2 weeks
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Your running leaded gas on the dyno tune? I wonder how that guys wideband is handling that. :l
$87 for a set of spark plugs? Is someone on crack? You don't know what a good plug should look like? look at NGK.com, the beginning of a haynes manual... ect... Never had knock? do you have a det can or something to be sure? |
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your a liar and a fag. maybe that is the problem :y
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
your a liar and a fag. maybe that is the problem :y
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by widebody93
Well my car is due for a tune up after the dyno run. The guy stated that I may need colder plugs, I know that plugs opperate best at 700 degrees, and my plugs look a smidge on the black side with a AFR at 11.3 at WOT from 4.5K on up. So we installed a new set gapped at .45 and let the boost go two 28psi from the initial tune of 18psi at 392hp, I made 473hp but it blew a little black smoke out the exhaust "Too RICH". We then measured the heat soak on the motor and it read around 170' on the intake mani. Let it cool for about 30 min then done another run but set a lil leaner to when the AFR dipped then spiked out at the again 11's and lost torque at the 5200rpm mark. Checked the plugs and still a black haze on them. HERE's the Question????? Should the plugs have a slight hint of white on them even if runing Leaded CAM2 110 oct race fuel. Light down the spark plug holes show alot of black sut sittin on top of the pistons. NEVER HAD KNOCK BTW. WHAT the part Number for the colder plugs for a H22A. I found a set around $87 but they dont list the part number just say 2 steps down from stock. A lil help and a ---- hair of hazing will be appreciated.
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
I would go out on a limb here and say both you and your "tooner" are morons. First off, any respectable dyno guy knows how to read plugs properly, and according to what you have written, your car shouldn't even be pulling past 10psi with that plug gap. FYI, black haze around the top portion of the plug deals with part-throttle low load areas of the rpm range. The only way to tell how rich or lean a plug is running is by looking into the well of the plug itself at the base of the porcelain. Different race fuels leave different color rings at the base, some grey some brown depending on the type of fuel. Also...the only way to tell if a plug's heat range is too hot or cold is by checking the annealing band after a wot pull and see where it sits on the ground strap. Once plugs reach operating temp, they should "burn off" all excess traces of black carbon build up at the tips of the plugs. Also look at the electrode of the plug...if there is a black ring about 1mm down from the tip of the electrode, take out some timing. If there are black pepper speckles on the plugs, you're mildly detonating...take out some timing. As for plugs, use a regular flat electrode NGK plug. If you do need one that's a step or 2 colder, get a higher number value. Never use race plugs in a daily driven setup, they're designed for high rpm use all the time. Street driving on them will foul them out too quickly and sometimes even melts the electrode and ground strap. Avoid a recessed electrode whenever possible as well, it keeps the spark from where it should be in the first place...in the combustion chamber. Even a set of NGK Iridium plugs for my b16a didn't cost over $48, so $87 is smoking crack. And please don't try to argue spark plug tech with me...I am the plug nazi. ;)
lol ownage lol |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
I would go out on a limb here and say both you and your "tooner" are morons. First off, any respectable dyno guy knows how to read plugs properly, and according to what you have written, your car shouldn't even be pulling past 10psi with that plug gap. FYI, black haze around the top portion of the plug deals with part-throttle low load areas of the rpm range. The only way to tell how rich or lean a plug is running is by looking into the well of the plug itself at the base of the porcelain. Different race fuels leave different color rings at the base, some grey some brown depending on the type of fuel. Also...the only way to tell if a plug's heat range is too hot or cold is by checking the annealing band after a wot pull and see where it sits on the ground strap. Once plugs reach operating temp, they should "burn off" all excess traces of black carbon build up at the tips of the plugs. Also look at the electrode of the plug...if there is a black ring about 1mm down from the tip of the electrode, take out some timing. If there are black pepper speckles on the plugs, you're mildly detonating...take out some timing. As for plugs, use a regular flat electrode NGK plug. If you do need one that's a step or 2 colder, get a higher number value. Never use race plugs in a daily driven setup, they're designed for high rpm use all the time. Street driving on them will foul them out too quickly and sometimes even melts the electrode and ground strap. Avoid a recessed electrode whenever possible as well, it keeps the spark from where it should be in the first place...in the combustion chamber. Even a set of NGK Iridium plugs for my b16a didn't cost over $48, so $87 is smoking crack. And please don't try to argue spark plug tech with me...I am the plug nazi. ;)
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
lol ownage lol |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by ososlohatch
have moomy and daddy buy the 87 dollar plugs , they'll put it on the plastic like the rest ;)
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If I tell you to go jump off a cliff will you?
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yoour a moron with money pay someone to figure it out for you handjob
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by widebody93
You dumb ----, I'm 26, own a house, 2 weeks away from being married, and this is what the guy at the dyno told me, I have Hondata S300 and knock show up on the table. Thats how I know of no knock. Other than that the shop manager listenes for it while the tuning man does his thing. I just stand back and watch and play the part of "the Grocery boy" I go get what he needs for my car, but this was posted what close to a month ago, so bringing up old posts then talking smack is LAME. $87 plugs is what a site was posting, NOT WHAT I WAS BUYING.
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Originally Posted by ProzacOverdose
wow....I didn't know being 26, owning a house, and being 2 weeks away from being married makes me special? :y You're one of those idiots that talk a lot of ---- but can't do ---- about nothing. You just pay people to do ---- you don't know how to. STFU will you :'(. You're what we call a RICER. :3
Originally Posted by widebody93
I just stand back and watch and play the part of "the Grocery boy"
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
wow well said good sir well said.
that is a good job for you since you dont know a ------- thing about cars you little ------- liar. i saw that dog faced looking bitch your about to marry she looks like a pirates of the caribean knock off. hopefully you understand more about ----- than you do cars otherwise she will be kicking your ass to the curb just like your molester daddy did. sperm butt |
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Originally Posted by widebody93
You got to be blind cause when I put that picture up I got alot of comments by IM. And I'm at least man enough to say that I"M NOT A TUNER and that I pay to get it tuned. I did the build, I did the body work, I did ASSEMBLE MY MOTOR, I DID BUILD MY TRANS with the help of gearspeed syncros the second time around. I DID IT ALL BUT I didnt tune it. Are you implying that when someone pays to get their car tuned on a dyno thats Hondata certified they are a RICER. So you tuned your car by yourself right? I guess your just a cool guy that no one can do better than. Post your car's pics I WANNA SEE WHATS BETTER THAN MINE. BITCHASSCRACKER your exactly what your name says minus the cracker and add the keyword HATER
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by jagojon3
What? I LOVE TO EAT ---- FROM BITCHASSHATER. Tell your mom I'm sorry I didnt go to church to clear me of all my jago-gay sins.
(REALLY I liked it, WE all like it) |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
you built nothing your a liar. no one believes you, and we all want you to die from eating your own poop
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
and we all want you to die from eating your own poop
That would be great :6 |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by stenseltizm
Does that happen? Like when i go atm on a bitch, is she risking her life for my enjoyment? :l
That would be great :6 yes. i think so :y |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
you built nothing your a liar. no one believes you, and we all want you to die from eating your own poop
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
i got a super sweet civic with a wide body kit and a h22
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
i got a super sweet civic with a wide body kit and a h22
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
i need a super sweet civic with a wide body kit and a h22 just to come half as close to the real deal that WIDEBODY93 HAS, but still slower cause I'm "bitchasscracker" a poor homo
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
your a liar and a fag. maybe that is the problem :y
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Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by widebody93
DO YOU EVEN OWN A TURBO let alone car, POST SOME PICS
no but i dream of getting both someday when i move out of my moms house |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
no but i dream of getting both someday when i move out of my moms house |
Re: H22A Spark Plugs 1000cc
yes its a lie you cought me O0
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