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the tensioners are different diameters. obviously but my question is the h22 timing belt shorter than the h23? im assuming so , they have different part numbers i checked on that i just want to make sure on which one i need to buy thanks guys for any help
jared

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------- gay i might just go to a parts store and check length tomarrow just to see compared to my other one

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Everyone uses the h22 belt. Most have a problem saying its really tight.

I'm guessing you use the h23 tensioner pulley? That is the reason it's so tight. It's a lot bigger than the h22 pulley.

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Ya man its tight... Use the h22 belt though... We had to put the tensioner on Last and kind of jimmy it into position. The other alternative is to leave the H2O pump off and get everything set and fasten it into place last. The tensioner spring and all that ---- is really not even nesseccary. We didnt bother puting it on my motor the second time.

The important thing is that you need to make sure that you shim the tensioner correctly so that the belt sits propperly on the pulley itself.


Let me know if I can help joo.

O0

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Mine was tight also, even used the Trust Timing belt too. Warning about after 5K miles go back and check it, my belt stretched enough to where I had to readjust it. And the springs, blah dont even bother with them, they just get in the way when you can only slide the belt over so much if it's going into a civic. I used a battery hook and filed the hooked end down to get into that lil hole on the tensioner and loosen the bolts from the bottom and have someone lightly pull up while you turn the crank by hand. DO NOT RUN the rear cam gear cover that makes it alot easier too. Front is ok to run unless you like pulling off your gears everytime you have to do a belt adjustment

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Ya I have the greddy belt as well, but mine hasnt stretched in 6500 bveaten miles...... MAYBE your tensioner came loose wideass????

LOL

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is there a difference in the belts though 2.3 -2.2?its just so ------- tight.. haha oh well, and when you say shim, put the washer in there? like on the tensioner pully rod?

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On mine we had to shim the pulley OUT to get it to be in positin (where the belt is located properly on the pulley)... On the outside i just used the balanceshgaft tenisioner pulley for a spacewr so that I didnt have to change the main "stud"...

I have some pics if you need them.

B

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The 23 has a different belt pattern so you can use it but you have to use all the same pulley s the 23 has. Other wise just man it on there like we did. Try matching up your bottom end and put you belt on the gear s and then bolt the gears to the cam shafts if you dont want to try the water pump method. Which is hell of alot easier. Are you trying to do this with the motor in the car?

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He speaks the truth....

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yes its in the car. ------- gay now if i new it was going to be this much of a pita i would have waited haha. i will get it

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Your better off just going ahead and pulling the motor to get to everything easily, it's just what 6 plugs 2 hoses, starter power supply and drain the radiator. By the time you fight with geting the bolts in and some what tight you will be fighting the belt, by then you could have motor out, clean up the engine bay, and back in with less aggrivation. BELIEVE ME I KNOW. My H22A is in a EG hatch. Have fun or listen the wise.

And dont bother with the H23 stuff unless it's a crank and rods

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i ordered up aq greddy timing belt and cooler t-stat, and new radiator(mishimoto) need a fan yet, need to get some more pics uploaded! debating on injector size yet!... 1200s im thinking

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Those will be so hard to tune at idel if it's going to be driven on the street. I have P.P. 1000cc's and at 850 rpm idel I'm using like 1% duty cycle of the injector, which is just hard to get to idle, some times after a pull on the dyno it will drop to 0% for a couple of min's even with the same AFR's.
And for a fan get a FAL with a pusher blade. So you have room for your slave and no worries of when the motor rocks the slave bleeder valve wont hit the blades of the fan.
Or just get one from advance and grab one of their fans and the mounting kit. Change out your under hood fan fuse to a 20amp from a 15amp for more power then get a cooler fan switch so your fan cycles more often.

Both work but I live in Indiana and weathers crazy here year round

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im in iowa and its different every damn day and i have a fal fan but i cant fit it so im goin to run an advanced auto one. and just have it on a switch. yea i know thats what i was worried about with the 1200s but i want more than 500 hp and 1000s will get me roughly 500 on e85. but i was hoping for more but oh well, we'll just have to see.

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best way is only out it on the exhaust cam halfway, same for the waterpump, and the just force it onto the intake cam.

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Your a straight up idiot,
It's a H22 in a civic, if you triy that method there is not a way to get the manual belt adjustment right or even access to it with the belt on with out taking the cover off, which is not possible in this method.
LISTEN TO THE ONES WITH THIS MOTOR
PULL THE MOTOR put the belt on with the top to TDC alignment dots marked side to side"CAMS", with the crank at it mark on the fly with in the widow mark opening BOTTOM END ADVANCE, mark the belt with the gear with a paint marker on the cams and the crank to make sure TDC and install the water pump. SIMPLE ----

------- IDIOTS that have not done a conversion such as this that throw their input makes me ------- ANGRY :7
DUMB ASS RIGHT THERE

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Id think that with the proper ethnic engineering i5t could be done in the motor with just the tranny dropped down...... Even in a civic.

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The rear frame support is about 3in too big to drop the trans cause of the extended length of the trans you can only do it maybe 2 iches but it wont help any, Seriously the best way is to just pull the motor.
Thanks for Chiming in, BDVT nice for some ideas really, but it's not as simple as it is in your car.

Just pull the motor and eliminate any errors of B/S. Get in fixed the first time rather than fighting with it cause of the tight fit. PULL IT OUT

O0 ENGINEERING is not the key

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And the intake cam is on the back side of the motor with only 1/2in of clearance from the strut tower structure
You got it backwards or sdrawkcab as some idiot here spells it.


You should know better than throwing your jibberish in
OH BTW BRASS VALVE GUIDES FROM KMS SUCK

Diameter is way to small, got to hone them like 20 thow to get right and they are only for stroker motors that that have high lift cams
Didnt know this at the time and they scarred up and caused a valve guide oil leak
Pulled my head and off the the machinist
Pick it up next weekend along with my OBX LSD with the M2B4 gears and M2F4 ring gear

:8 Engineering is the KEY

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Widebody, I can and have done it in the car. the absolute easiest way of doing it is, Take the cams out or loose wichever you choose, put the the tensioners on it and then put the belt on it. have the cams lifted up on the dizzy side and slide the belt on, then push the cams down and check the tension. if you need to adjust it, just lift the cams back up and adjust the tensioner and test it again. Simple yet effective.

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thanks a lot guys!!