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Got a free '85 civic, needs new motor...

Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Default Got a free '85 civic, needs new motor...

Any suggestions on what would be good? I dont know much about what would fit into it and a lot of the websites I go to dont have info on older civics.. Its a very clean car no rust - and light as hell
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:41 AM
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redpepperacing.com = your new best friend...
dropa usdm d16a1 or JDM dohc ZC your easiest swap...
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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i thought the jdm zc's dont fit.
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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I dont know for sure, but I think I read the older 1st gen ZCs do fit. But either way I'm lookin for a D16A1 from an 86 or 87 teg, I think thats the cheapest route
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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There should be a rule on this board that if you just say ZC without saying WHICH ZC then you get your knuckles smacked with a ruler by a nun. The same goes for saying d-series or b-series or D15 or D16 or B18 or whatever. Everyone should BE MORE SPECIFIC! OK ::rant-->off:: Anywho, I have *heard* that there are at least 4 basic types of ZCs: 86-87 (or maybe it's 85-87?) brown top dohc ZC similar to the 86-89 teg D16A1, black top dohc ZC that swaps into 88-91 Civics and maybe later ones too, sohc non-vtec ZC similar to the D16A6, and a sohc vtec ZC similar to the D16Z6/D16Y8. I could be wrong so someone please correct me if I am. For an 85 Civic you want the brown/olive top 1g ZC. I've also heard that they came both mpfi and carbed but I don't know how easy it is to find either one. I think your are right that the D16A1s out of 1g tegs are the way to go because of cost and availability. That is what I would choose and you can do a lot with the money you save over other swaps. cheers
Old Jan 18, 2004 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tjbizzo
There should be a rule on this board that if you just say ZC without saying WHICH ZC then you get your knuckles smacked with a ruler by a nun. The same goes for saying d-series or b-series or D15 or D16 or B18 or whatever. Everyone should BE MORE SPECIFIC! OK ::rant-->off:: Anywho, I have *heard* that there are at least 4 basic types of ZCs: 86-87 (or maybe it's 85-87?) brown top dohc ZC similar to the 86-89 teg D16A1, black top dohc ZC that swaps into 88-91 Civics and maybe later ones too, sohc non-vtec ZC similar to the D16A6, and a sohc vtec ZC similar to the D16Z6/D16Y8. I could be wrong so someone please correct me if I am. For an 85 Civic you want the brown/olive top 1g ZC. I've also heard that they came both mpfi and carbed but I don't know how easy it is to find either one. I think your are right that the D16A1s out of 1g tegs are the way to go because of cost and availability. That is what I would choose and you can do a lot with the money you save over other swaps. cheers
Dude I said JDM DOHC ZC.. that explains it all...
The was only one DOHC ZC... Brown top/black top regardless, they both fit... and are the same engine witha few minor changes...
Old Jan 18, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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they have slightly different motor mount locations
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 03:58 AM
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WEll depending on which you use you use the same rear tranny mount and I belive drivers side mount? I think that's it, but they both do fit...

If oyu plan on turboing you should do the 88-89.. btw
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 04:53 AM
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the brown top ZC has thicker rod's , and the brown top ZC has a vacume advance dizzy, but that can be easily taken care of. And it has a different compresion and flat top pistons. the intake mani is different though, but both are good engines IMO...boost away
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Semnos
the brown top ZC has thicker rod's , and the brown top ZC has a vacume advance dizzy, but that can be easily taken care of. And it has a different compresion and flat top pistons. the intake mani is different though, but both are good engines IMO...boost away
True buuut.. Vac. Advance cam be a nitch :P Might as well upgrade the rods ina lbacktop
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