HomemadeTurbo - DIY Turbo Forum

HomemadeTurbo - DIY Turbo Forum (https://www.homemadeturbo.com/)
-   Hybrid/Tech (https://www.homemadeturbo.com/hybrid-tech-8/)
-   -   gear grinding (https://www.homemadeturbo.com/hybrid-tech-8/gear-grinding-33757/)

B16aJunkY 01-22-2005 11:11 PM

gear grinding
 
it dose it once in a while.. tonight was the most odd.. right when i went from secound to 3erd with the clutch all the way in.. it grinded a bit when i went our of secound. i also been hearing a little whine. nicking nose from where the shift linkage is. anyone know why this can be happing?
the car has 182K miles and its been 15-20Kmiles sence i put honda tranny oil in it.

Guy-Fast 01-22-2005 11:16 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
checked motor mounts?

88dx 01-22-2005 11:44 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
Drain Tranny fluid and look for sparkles :P.
steve

Dr.Boost 01-22-2005 11:46 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
Probably low on fluid.....or your syncros/shift arms are taking a ----. :P
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote

fsufan814 01-23-2005 01:32 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
honda tranny oil is your prob, to thick

i had a 3rd gear grind when i first stuck in my Si tranny
put honda oil in it grinded 3rd everytime any rpm and sometimes 4th

drained it, stuck in pennzoil synchromesh and now it shifts like honey

its a temp fix but it will work

Dr.Boost 01-23-2005 01:58 AM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by fsufan814
honda tranny oil is your prob, to thick

i had a 3rd gear grind when i first stuck in my Si tranny
put honda oil in it grinded 3rd everytime any rpm and sometimes 4th

drained it, stuck in pennzoil synchromesh and now it shifts like honey

its a temp fix but it will work

Really? I have a hellish 3rd gear grind followed by a slight 4th gear grind. I'm running some GTX 10w-30 in it. You think a different oil will actually fix that? It was running on some thick ass gear oil before I got it(previous owner didn't know any better).
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote

Slo_crx1 01-23-2005 02:00 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
Mine has that nasty 3rd gear grind too. I haven't changed the oil in a while, so i think i'll do that when all this damn snow melts and see if it helps any. Would slightly thicker be better?

fsufan814 01-23-2005 02:02 AM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost

Originally Posted by fsufan814
honda tranny oil is your prob, to thick

i had a 3rd gear grind when i first stuck in my Si tranny
put honda oil in it grinded 3rd everytime any rpm and sometimes 4th

drained it, stuck in pennzoil synchromesh and now it shifts like honey

its a temp fix but it will work

Really? I have a hellish 3rd gear grind followed by a slight 4th gear grind. I'm running some GTX 10w-30 in it. You think a different oil will actually fix that? It was running on some thick ass gear oil before I got it(previous owner didn't know any better).

yea it helped, the 3rd gear grind was so bad it would do it as low as 2000 rpms and even after pressing the clutch multiple times and waiting to stick it in gear and it was a ROUGH grind, honda oil is super thin and the basically the gear oil is great for getting the tranny to slow down and getting the synchros to do their job better, or thats the guess, ive been running it about 10k now, works great

ive also heard good stuff about other synchromesh oils, espically in chattery LSD trannys

Guy-Fast 01-23-2005 04:55 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
My cars wouldnt be right without a 3rd gear grind. I destroy them so fast I have really just given up. I have so many dead L3's

J-SMITH69 01-23-2005 05:24 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
i put 70w/130 gear oil in my honda tranny all the time :-p

till i got hella cheap and didnt care and put 10w/30 wal-mart brand oil

SpankedYA! 01-23-2005 07:09 AM

Re:gear grinding
 

or your syncros/shift arms are taking a ----.

B16aJunkY 01-23-2005 07:23 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
so thiker oil... i know the motor mounts are ok. for the shift linkage.. is a little play good or should it be stiff ?

SunshineSketches 01-23-2005 12:50 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
you aren't supposed to run thick oil in honda trannies, you're supposed to run 10w-30.

My tranny is about to die, it growls and i can feel it through the shifter. It was low on oil because it leaked : ( oh well, it's a cx tranny anyways

J-MAN 01-23-2005 01:01 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
i just decided to check my fluid level in my tranny and it took almost a whole quart of 10w30 :o, i guess thats why it has been so hard to get into second and when i woul djiggle the shifter in neutral i would hear it clunking around in the tranny. it's a dx tranny anyways and i have a new ex one i'm about to put in once it warms up.

fsufan814 01-23-2005 03:19 PM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by SunshineSketches
you aren't supposed to run thick oil in honda trannies, you're supposed to run 10w-30.

My tranny is about to die, it growls and i can feel it through the shifter. It was low on oil because it leaked : ( oh well, it's a cx tranny anyways

who gives a ---- what weight you use? it really isnt gonna make 2 fucks off a difference ask a mistabone or anyone that knows anything, thicker oil isnt going to hurt a tranny

SunshineSketches 01-23-2005 09:59 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
are you sure about that? I don't see a difference in running thicker oil and overfilling with oil, and i have heard overfilling oil can damage things. So how could putting in too thick of oil not hurt the gears, especially if it was cold weather. Just looking for a clear explanation.

fsufan814 01-23-2005 10:44 PM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by SunshineSketches
are you sure about that? I don't see a difference in running thicker oil and overfilling with oil, and i have heard overfilling oil can damage things. So how could putting in too thick of oil not hurt the gears, especially if it was cold weather. Just looking for a clear explanation.

who said anything about over filling? and its called viscosity look it up www.howstuffworks.com

Bone1 01-23-2005 11:43 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
thicker oil, esp. GEAR OIL will kill a tranny........

The oil ended up not making it into the roller bearings under the gearsets. Smoked them.

3rd gear grinds on a 88-00 SOHC Tranny, cure is in this order

shifter bushings, motor mounts, 1-2 shifter fork.

If you have a 4th gear grind also, then likely you broke 3-4 shifter fork. I've only seen two of these.

fsufan814 01-23-2005 11:45 PM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
thicker oil, esp. GEAR OIL will kill a tranny........

The oil ended up not making it into the roller bearings under the gearsets. Smoked them.

3rd gear grinds on a 88-00 SOHC Tranny, cure is in this order

shifter bushings, motor mounts, 1-2 shifter fork.

If you have a 4th gear grind also, then likely you broke 3-4 shifter fork. I've only seen two of these.

---- you bone ;D

Bone1 01-23-2005 11:51 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
I've got soo many pics of dead trannys, I cannot find them all!!!!!!!!!

So I give you this...........

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi...DOAtranny1.jpg

Spenser 01-23-2005 11:55 PM

Re:gear grinding
 
I ble the diff out in my l3 tranny, and I suspect it was cause I was running low on fluid. I'm gona say that stock honda oil (10w30) is the best ---- to run, The race teams even run it. ;)

fsufan814 01-23-2005 11:57 PM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
I ble the diff out in my l3 tranny, and I suspect it was cause I was running low on fluid. I'm gona say that stock honda oil (10w30) is the best ---- to run, The race teams even run it. ;)

didnt say it wasnt, i was just saying how to temporarily fix, obviously any tranny grinding more than a fucked up shift is gonna need a rebuild or replacing anyways

Spenser 01-23-2005 11:59 PM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by fsufan814

Originally Posted by Spenser
I ble the diff out in my l3 tranny, and I suspect it was cause I was running low on fluid. I'm gona say that stock honda oil (10w30) is the best ---- to run, The race teams even run it. ;)

didnt say it wasnt, i was just saying how to temporarily fix, obviously any tranny grinding more than a fucked up shift is gonna need a rebuild or replacing anyways

I wasn't replying to you, ::)

Bone1 01-24-2005 12:26 AM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
I ble the diff out in my l3 tranny, and I suspect it was cause I was running low on fluid. I'm gona say that stock honda oil (10w30) is the best ---- to run, The race teams even run it. ;)

You blew the diff out from doing too many one wheel peels.......the spider gears the eat through the diff pin, causing a explosion.........

Looks something like this.........you can see the broken diff pin in the lower right.........

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi...y/P3130001.JPG

another

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi...nny%20boom.jpg
non harden diff pin used in 88-91 SOHC and 90-93 DOHC trannys..........

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi.../bad%20pin.jpg

The better diff pin that was factory hardend........

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi...good%20pin.jpg


88dx 01-24-2005 12:30 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
what cars/years come with The diff pin that was factory hardend?

Spenser 01-24-2005 01:43 AM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone

Originally Posted by Spenser
I ble the diff out in my l3 tranny, and I suspect it was cause I was running low on fluid. I'm gona say that stock honda oil (10w30) is the best ---- to run, The race teams even run it. ;)

You blew the diff out from doing too many one wheel peels.......the spider gears the eat through the diff pin, causing a explosion.........

yes the diff did explode on a 4500rpm full throttle launch, but I suspect it was cause I ran it low on oil for about 50 miles. It had a really really loud bearing noise, sounded worse then any wheel bearing I've ever seen, it was like that for about 5000 miles then it finally let go. pieces of the diff and tranny case are still inbeded in my frame 8)

mycrx 01-24-2005 01:55 AM

Re:gear grinding
 
wow homo's tear apart the tranny= not hard if i can do it and replace the syncros they r like 100 bucks, ---- while your at it do the bearings to.

fsufan814 01-24-2005 02:19 AM

Re:gear grinding
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
wow homo's tear apart the tranny= not hard if i can do it and replace the syncros they r like 100 bucks, ---- while your at it do the bearings to.

wtf are you babbling about?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:43 AM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands