fluctuatin RPM needle after 4K rpm
 

Hey guys.. just swapped a Zc 1.6L vtec into my Dx Eg. everything running good now with the exception of above 4000 rpm. What it does is the tach needle starts fluctuating back n forth so i don know exactly where I am in the rpm band. and i'm also not sure if im hitting Vtec becuase after 4km the higher I go, it feels like its lagging the power and its the slightest bit laggy. Any help to fix these things?

oh.. how do i know Im hitting Vtec???

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When you hit vtec your tires start to rip 8)








just playing sounds like you did something wrong any cel"s

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haha good shiz.. no cels. but I havent had the jumper on while trying to hit vtec. would it throw a code only during vtec?

anyone know how to check vtec without checkin resistance or any of that crap

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find a hill


flloor it at 30 mph in 3rd gear



no vtec grrrrrrrr=no vtecccccccccccccccc

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So let me get this right! You are checking for codes with the car running?

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yes. But not when I drive it hard. Haven't check it yet
I've been playin with the revs at stand still with jumper on.

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No
bad
key off
jumper in
key to on DO NOT START
COUNT FLASHES
LONGER BLINKS =10 PER LONG BLINK
SHORTER BLINKS= 1 PER BLINK


ITS THAT EASY TRY HARDER


ONLY HELPING CAUSE ITS X-MAS

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What was the problem with the car runnig that you "fixed" your other thread

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Sounds like something in your distributor is fucked up.

RPM jumping around indicates a bad igniter/coil.

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^^ :y My z6 did the same thing, replaced coil and igniter all good now.

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ignitor, I went with Accord unit.

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I had this problem when i had a bad connection to the ground on the thermostat housing.

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Really? a grounding issue will Mess that up? ok So heres what I got:

t-stat grounding is fine, replaced the ignitor from my other dizzy (d15b7) apparantly at a parts store the item #'s are the same so i swapped em, not the coil yet as i don't know if they are the same. as I am driving, I am throwing a code now. A CEL 20. Two long pause's. engine load indicator or something? I can't even find anyone that knows how to fix a CEL 20. I'm being told its the battery, alternator, alternator ground and dizzy. I am def. feeling a Drastic cut of spark or Power in the higher rpm when the needle fluctuates for sure. battery cranks fine in ANY weather, alternator is also brand new ( 6months ). Anyone know how to fix a CEL 20? Oh and the ignitor issues, I had a crx that the ignitor went on me, but when that happened, i got no spark on any cylinders, and it wouldn't even run! does anyone also know if a DX and a Si Coil are interchangeable? Thanks for all the help

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Any input?

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adjust your CPS, mine started acting up when i swapped my z6

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Ya there is no code 20
TRY AGAIN

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There is no crank postion sensor on z6 ------- nice try though

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in the dizzy smartass, if you new more about Hondas like you think you do. you would have new this by now, and what does the CRANK position have to do with the tach. remeber the tach runs off your "dist-rib-utor" there a sensor in there with three bolts you losen to adjust, do you need a walk threw?

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owned give me that refreaher course then dick lips

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first you want to get your 12mm "remember to make shure its a 12, i doubt you can tell by look" walk to your car and take the only three bolts holding your dizzy on. remove your plug wires "make shure you write down where each one goes, you dont want to over heat trying to figure it out" then grab you an 8mm with extension and unbolt the three bolts holding your dizzy cap on" its what you removed yourplugs wires off of" once you've done that, your gonna alotof bolts, ill have to drawyou a picture so you dont get confused. 2 screws on the far ends and 1 in the middle, you use a phillips head for that part. losen them up and turn the sensor as much as you want to where all 3 screws will screw back in.

why would you be dumb enough to think i would adjust CRANK postion voltage to help my tach out?

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You're a ------- idiot

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http://www.hondahookup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=115614

" 20 - Electrical Load Detector (ELD) "

How is there not a Code 20???

i'm a little lost as to you guys are talking about. Can someone elaborate?

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Is this a better upgrade for the vtec obd1 d series dizzy than the OEM honda part, or just a case of you had it sitting around and it was free?

I've noticed my tach kinda being jumpy sometimes lately, and my MPG isnt what it should be for a VX (only around 45 ish, never could get any better even with lots of highway and babying the car). Guessing it's the notorious d series dizzy taking a dump on me since all the other tune-up parts have been replaced....

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There really is no upgrade, unless you upgrade to an aftermarket distributor, but I don't know if I'd trust those.

Either buy a new one, or get one from a working distributor.

It tooks ~10+ years for it to go bad.

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so everyone feels its the dizzy eh? I guess i'll have to try to test one out then

this is what I tried, swapped my chipped ecu ( map p28 ) with my P06 virgin ecu, and used the jumper, and the engine light stays on solid, if i remove it it goes away. but with the Chipped Ecu it still has that Cel 20 code. would u feel its the ecu? I'm gonna try driving the car with the P06 ecu see if it fluctuates, and i'll let u guys know!

Any help would be great! No thread stealing >:D

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yup still fluctuates.. but not sure if its my imagination, but it feels like its pulling more harder with the P06 ecu rather than the Chipped P28 map. It keeps going in the RPM band but the chipped ecu u totally feel a Lag or a bog during the high Rpms!!

Ahhh.. This S#%R is pissin me off! i might as well just get a Dizzy.. Any other input?

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ANy help from my last post info?

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have you replaced the ignitor?

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Swapping it back to the ignitor that the engine came with from the b7 ignitor i previously used. Will let you know what happens!

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ok so put the ignitor that the dizzy originally came with... Problem went away.

Drove home after work at night, decided to make sure the needle wasnt gonna mess up again, did a few pulls.. the needle started to come back. Now here the annoying problem. when i floor the engine, after I let go of the gas and what not, I hear a noise coming from the passenger front side ( dizzy side ) of the engine bay, a sound that can only be heard when the engine is put under pressure.. its not valve adjustment cuz its gone at idle, would a dizzy make noise???

i did see a crack on one part of the dizzy, hair line though, I'll get a diagram and show what was slightly cracked,

Can anyone answer my question if the dizzy makes noise? if not, what would it be? what else should i Check?

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how bout you have someone rev up the engine while you look under the hood.

And if the problem came back with the original igniter after a while, that means it goes bad with the heat.

replace it with a new one from Honda.

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i rev it many times higher up and no sound comes back.. it actually needs a normal drive pull for it to come back.. its the weirdest thing.. Do you think a ignitor is going if the car bogs and the needle fluctuates?? what would a bad Coil have symptoms of?

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???? :o

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it can be either or. The only way to find out is to replace with the appropriate, working part.

stop ------- asking questions and ------- do work you piece of ---- jew.

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ok.. so Ignitor and Ingition coil was replaced. After i replaced the Coil, it felt a lot stronger.. but after a day, the problem came back! >:D how annoying..

any other input?

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did you make sure the connections to the coil were nice and clean? i was swapping dizzy stuff around and didn't sandpaper the terminals that attached to teh coil. took me an hour to figure it out. coil worked in the one dizzy, but not the other. make sure you have a clean contact between everything.

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one time it happened, it was a bad ground

the other time, it was a bad dizzy