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has anyone installed a f22a in a 92 civic? if so what is needed?

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why would you?...not that much power unless its the vtec one, and not mych potential as far as i know

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actually the only f22 engine thats vtec is the f22b1 with 145hp @ 147lbs of tq.....and its sohc....forget that motor...not worth it for the cost...get a nice b16 or a gsr or a I.T.R. motor...much better for the price

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agreed, their would be no benift..

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your dumb there are plenty of vtec f series motors, one of the better ones is the F22B from accord SIR-T "bluetop" 200ps@7600rpm.
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F series would be pointless to put in a EF/EG/EK or any of the integras.. why? well first off, it simply does not just bolt in, B-series is a way better platform. Even if I had a F series motor for free I still wouldnt install it. Its bulky and has a long stroke does nothing for me.

For accord owners, I wouldnt even be messing with them, H-series all the way. (honda big block baby)

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I don't understand why so many people are wanting to install H-Series into D or B series platforms. First off yeah the SIR-T blue top would be nice but do you really think you could get a hold of one and IF you could do you really think you would want to pay for it? Its a rare motor and for 200 Hp I would rather buy a b18c5. First off it would be alot cheaper, second it would drop in ALOT easier than a H or F series in a EF/EG/Ek platform, 3rd it would be alot easier to work on. ---- you wanna do all of that wiring? ---- no no one does when they know the simplicity lays in a B series. 4th I would still have my steering okay while yours would be shot. 5th I will spend 1 hour doing a timing belt and water pump in my car while it takes you 2 days because you had to pull the motor. Now I am not implying that you would rather buy a H or F series over a B series but you shouldn't have given him ideas lol.

-Alex

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the SiR-T engine is an F20B (DOHC Vtec) and is pretty much identical to an H22 (makes same power, around same torque, main difference that you can actually feel or see is that the engine revs a TAD higher, and of course is a 2.0 instead of a 2.2). and the F20B isn't all that hard to find anymore, matter of fact there are a few from respectable company's on EBay for around 1300

I've seen a guy put an F22Ax in an EF hatch before, he claimed that it ran with his H22'd CB7 (4th gen accord) its not really that bad of an idea to tell you the truth.

Pros:
F Series are CHEAP (I have three complete engines right now)
Boost Friendly
Will use same mounts as an H22 would
more torque than a D or B series

Cons:
They're big, so might be hard to cram in a civic (but so is any H series)

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i wouldnt put one in a civic either simple because there are better options imo.

but no way in hell would i put a h series in my car when i have a perfectly good f22 already in there....unless you are looking for 500+hp. for the cost of an h22 you can easily have a boosted accord that will wipe its ass with any h22 w/ bolt ons, any were, any time. when it comes time for the ~350whp reliably stage, its a lot cheaper to build an f simply because you dont have to resleeve the block.

and while you are building it i would go with a h22 crank and rods with custom pistoms. that takes care of the rod/stroke thing.

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i'd do it, its just like an H swap which is easy to me. n f series llike boost. so why not? a built f series turbo in a civic eg chassis would be fun.

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I will agree, an F Series in a civic/teg isnt a COMMON swap, but neither is a K... and as for the motor mounts being different, MOST of the time you have to get different mounts when swapping a B into a civic anyway, so why not get a much more meatier engine thats far more friendly to boost?



It's pretty much preference really, if you want a cheap setup (overall wise) that'll get you beating a bunch of people with basic I/H/E swaps, I'd definatly go with an F series (whether it be DOHC or SOHC, but preferably NON vtec)


SOHC F - $0-300
DOHC F - $500-800
any B - $1000 ->

thats all I'm saying.

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I see nothing wrong with the F/H series. I'll put that in my civic anytime. I love the torque those motors put down. And if u wanna spend a lil xtra get the H2B kit.

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Wouldnt that swap be the same as the h22?

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learn how to read...

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its not hard to do at all, its better than the D-series, they are cheap. why not? f22's also love boost, and with the low compression, theres a small margin of error when it comes to tuning.

----, bisimoto put one in a crx, gutted it and just put one of their header's, intake, and some exhuast, and its running pretty damn ------- fast. A lot faster than a D would run if you did the same things to it.

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i would put that f in a eg; or ek chassis but not in an ef. theres no effing room in that beatch. then i would boost that beatch. i put down over 200lbs of tq with a t3@8psi with an f. now it was still slow in my accord but deam in a civic it would be killer. but then you will have traction problems for sure. so ehh their pros and cons..

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my car put out 208whp and 230wtq at 8psi with 10.5 a/f up top with my 16g.
after leaning it out i am now at approximately 230whp/250wtq at 10 psi. all with 2.5" exhaust. thing is my car weighs 2920 with a full tank. those numbers were with an afr of approximately 8.4-8.8:1 after my recent rebuild with 86 mm f22a pistons. i have a dohc f22b

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sup renr, thats funny we're both posting here.

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woo woo, this is the place that got me hooked on crack, i mean boost :6