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DeleriouS 03-06-2005 12:38 PM

engine will not start
 
so we all know i was a dumbass and blew my last motor. well i swapped in this new(used) motor and it wont start. i am getting fuel to my fuel rail, and i am getting sparks to my spark plugs and my motor is turning but wont start. i dont know what could be the problem. anyone have any ideas? i took off my valve cover and one of my lifters was off and just chillin. some of the lifters are loose. i am going to go to autozone and get one of those feeler gauges and tighten down all the lifters. could that be a problem? thanks in advance for all of your responses. and one more question - is there any possibility that i could be 180degrees off? thanks again O0

SpankedYA! 03-06-2005 01:02 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
Well the first reasonable thing would be to check the timing and firing order.I dont understand what you mean be lifter is off. You mean out of spec? Depending on cam and crank position sopme will be loose.

absolutezroo 03-06-2005 01:05 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
as stupid as it sounds i've seen people do it...so don't just go adjusting your valve lash with the crank in the same position

Dr.Boost 03-06-2005 01:07 PM

Re: engine will not start
 

Originally Posted by DeleriouS
i took off my valve cover and one of my lifters was off and just chillin. some of the lifters are loose.


Ummm......that's going to be a problem. Define "just chillin".
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tranceminister 03-06-2005 01:22 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
Lol yeah, indeed. Internal engine parts shouldn't just be chillin'. But timing like Dave said would be a good start as well. It is very possible to be 180 degrees off.

Dr.Boost 03-06-2005 01:35 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
I didn't think it was possible to swap the distributor 180 degrees? Not on a D series anyways.
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tranceminister 03-06-2005 01:41 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
I know when I installed a new cap and rotor in my D15, the rotor was designed so you could "accidentally" install it the wrong way. I spent a good ammount of time trying to figure out how I screwed up installing the rotor, because I too thought they only went 1 way. I can take pictures if anyone wants to see ;) It's worth a simple check though if you suspect your timing might be off.

DeleriouS 03-06-2005 03:34 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
the lifter was out of its place, it was lying underneath the cam - totaly detached. and yes pictures would be great - thanks

SpankedYA! 03-06-2005 05:04 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
If thats the case someone took the head apart and didnt put it back together correctly. Its impossible for the to happen on its own. I would go throught that entire head before you run or ruin the motor.

DeleriouS 03-06-2005 10:46 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
we double looked at where the lifter was loose, and it looks like we have a frozen valve - i dont think that that would cause my engine not to start, but it is a posibility. i am sorry to say, but i am going to have to bring it a honda dealership and get it serviced. thanks for all your help

Dr.Boost 03-07-2005 03:53 PM

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So is this a B18 or a D series? Either way you can pick up a new LS head or an A6 head for dirt cheap. No need to go to a Honda dealership and pay $5000 for a new head+labor. :-\
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90accordIHI 03-07-2005 03:54 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
you're an idiot

HMTguy 03-07-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 90boostdaccord
you're an idiot

bwahahahaha

DeleriouS 03-07-2005 09:29 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
WELL EVERYONE I GOT IT STARTED! i swapped out my fuel rail with my original working one - and the bitch fired up after a few cranks! i am ontop of the ------- world! well thanks to everyone here for your input - it is appreciated! now - saving money for uberdata. O0

88dx 03-07-2005 10:04 PM

Re: engine will not start
 

Originally Posted by DeleriouS
WELL EVERYONE I GOT IT STARTED! i swapped out my fuel rail with my original working one - and the bitch fired up after a few cranks! i am ontop of the ------- world! well thanks to everyone here for your input - it is appreciated! now - saving money for uberdata. O0

WTF happened to your "frozen valve" ??? ::)

DeleriouS 03-07-2005 10:15 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
i turned the motor over, shut it off after it got a nice idle for a little, and then took off the valve cover. it seems that the valve unfroze\ because it wasnt loose. and i know that sometimes the lifters can be a little loose because of the cam position, but this wasnt the case - the lobe was pointing up on the exhaust stroke, and that was the only valve that was stuck down there.

SpankedYA! 03-08-2005 05:21 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
I think you are mistaking normal play in the rocker when not on the same stroke. Either way glad to see its all set.

hotrex 03-08-2005 05:35 PM

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well he said the ------ rocker was layin there under the cam... i think he says its running so we dont call him a faggot ass idiot anymore..... i need proff that it runs

DeleriouS 03-08-2005 05:38 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
well you tell me how the hell to post pics and i will show you my block, and then i will show you the exhaust coming from my muffler...how about that

Dr.Boost 03-08-2005 05:42 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=23643
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turboboy 03-08-2005 05:50 PM

Re: engine will not start
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
If thats the case someone took the head apart and didnt put it back together correctly. Its impossible for the to happen on its own. I would go throught that entire head before you run or ruin the motor.

lol dont underestimate the power of over-revving. I missed a gear in my old car and put the bitch into 2nd at about 125...chucked a few lifters out of place

DeleriouS 03-08-2005 06:13 PM

Re: engine will not start (56k warning)
 
engine bay
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382318.jpg

new motor
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382367.jpg

engine bay
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382401.jpg

my cracked sleeve
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382449.jpg

the mess
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382475.jpg

new motor installed (same setup as last time)
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382492.jpg

intercooler
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382520.jpg

my sweet mbc
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382578.jpg

my car running
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL748/...2/88382611.jpg

is that good enough proof???

SpankedYA! 03-08-2005 06:18 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
That puff doesnt look healthy. :-X

absolutezroo 03-08-2005 06:38 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
are you running two stroke gas?? loll

DeleriouS 03-08-2005 10:22 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
i dunno whats the matter with it, it is sick though. my car's exhaust smokes A LOT. i dunno what it could be....could it
be the FMU?

DeleriouS 03-08-2005 10:34 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
and it isnt that fast...

Guy-Fast 03-08-2005 10:54 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
leaky injector. Reading plugs is your friend

N1ghtM0nkey 03-08-2005 10:58 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ey/engine2.jpg

That shouldn't be hooked up should it?

45psi 03-08-2005 11:03 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
no, that should be hooked up to a vacuum source

Dr.Boost 03-08-2005 11:06 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
Good eye. :-X


Well, it looks like he copied SSauto with the manifold and the valve cover hose to the charge pipes. :-X I bet your old motor loved that. I wonder why it took a ----? :-X
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N1ghtM0nkey 03-08-2005 11:13 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
Bah, we all make mistakes...some more expensive than others. I talked to him on AIM before he went to bed, told him to plug that hole right away and atleast put a breather on there.

turboDA6 03-09-2005 02:42 AM

Re: engine will not start
 
ur using the fmu again? didn't learn ur lesson the first time? man jus park it or baby it til you get ur ecu chipped. trust me, well worth waiting. n im sure you kno you blew up the first time for a reason, why would you do everything the same on a new motor thinkin it wont happen again?

DeleriouS 03-09-2005 07:44 AM

Re: engine will not start
 
no...i didnt have an FMU last time. and i am only pushing 5psi until i get my ecu chipped. and do you think that that could be my problem(with the breather hose)? thanks again N1ghtM0nkey and everyone else

DeleriouS 03-09-2005 07:45 AM

Re: engine will not start
 

Originally Posted by chris
leaky injector. Reading plugs is your friend

what do you mean leaky injector?

SpankedYA! 03-09-2005 07:49 AM

Re: engine will not start
 
Sometimes injectors dont close all the way and leak into the motor. This will casue problems with Air/Fuel ratio. Not to mention will ---- your idle. You have stock injectors in there right?

HMTguy 03-09-2005 03:52 PM

Re: engine will not start
 

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ey/engine2.jpg

That shouldn't be hooked up should it?

Bwahahaha OWNED again. That has got to be one of the dumbest noob mistakes you can do.

N1ghtM0nkey 03-09-2005 05:03 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
Lay off him guys, flaming him won't help him learn. I'd have to agree though, I would be very easy on it while you're running an FMU, if I even drove it at all. Get an uberdata setup ASAP! After that make sure you can tune it correctly, either via dyno or WB O2. I'm going to be buying a WB O2 soon so maybe we can work something out if you can't get to a dyno.

DeleriouS 03-09-2005 07:39 PM

Re: engine will not start
 
for sure...i have one more question....for some reason at WOT i am only getting .5psi - if that. my boost controller is set all the way down, is my boost gauge messed up? or is it something else (i have no leaks) also i have many T fittings off of that boost gauge...could that be my problem? thanks

Guy-Fast 03-10-2005 01:11 AM

Re: engine will not start
 
ya its the gauge

turboDA6 03-10-2005 02:56 AM

Re: engine will not start
 
its the gauge or its leaking somewhere even if you think its not, if that valve cover line is still hooked up to your ic piping then thats ur problem right there. eliminate all problems then turn down your boost.


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