D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

i bought a Z6 for my 4 gen im planning on boosting it.

My ? is is the a6 as strong as the Z6 ?since im runnin boost i dont really need the Vtec if im nearing the engines stock holding power anyway. i hear of Z6s holding a little over 200 and thats enough for me. but if a A6 does the same thing ..ill get one.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

Both bottom ends are pretty similar, the rods crank are pretty much the same setup. One doesnt have more of an advantage than the other. But oddly you see more guys boosting the ---- of of stock z6's with pretty decent sucsess.

Jeff

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

mmmmi know what you mean ..Fmax has a kit that puts out 238 whp @12psi on the Z6..lol they dont say anything about building it..i know better than that, but ill stick with the Z6..

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

those people are pushing the ---- out of those engines they would have had to rebuild the bottom end in order to with stand that much horsepower a z6 with ls rods can with stand about 220 hp, and thats with stock ls rods.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

We have a member on our board who is pushing his Z6 harder than ----.. with a completely stock bottom end,

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_...nstall_2_P.jpg

242 at the wheels, very impressive numbers.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

its changed now, im up to 255hp 210tq sae corrected, did pull out more timing turned up the boost a tad more thats why the wierd poewr change.... i make 274hp 230tq actual.... ;D will be going for 300prob next week

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

god damn...what are you running it on a t3?

you using a hondata or aem standalone?

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

im runing a t3t4 50trim from PTE, engine management is a good ol vafc 440cc and a btm, no fpr yet either... the car is still not tuned yet by the way :)

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

i think its cause of the ECU it retards timing does it not?

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

no, the ecu wont retard the timing...thats what the BTM is for...

how much lag are you seeing w/ that turbo? i would imagine you wouldnt see full boost till 5k or so?
btw, do you know if you're leaning out anywhere?

oh yeah, and how does it idle those 440s?

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

obvisoly on that dyno, it shows some serious lag.. The P28 will retard the timing just a little bit, since it uses a knock sensor, but not very much.

Jeff

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

I though ti retarded it when the vtec hit or does it just do under detonation situations.?

But ya the VTEC engines also have beefed up fuel maps compared to the d16. I think its all in the ECU.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

i have never seen numbers like that out of a stock d series. that is insane. how long do you thing that bottom end will last? How much boost are you running? I'm very impressed to say the least.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

someone on HT had a d16a6 that runs 10's and has 500 + HP. it has stock haha JK it is very built up and it really ugly with teh shogun body ---- goin on

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

ya its pretty crazy, I am suprised its still alive... ::)

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

here you go, latest dyno sheet... this was at 14psi with a boost leak that i dindt know about till now... the motor has held up for over 15drag passes and over 30dyno pulls and driving it on the street every now and then.. and i added my best dyno from when i was n/a so you guys can see hte difference. http://images.cardomain.com/installs...08_16_full.jpg

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

god damn that is god like out of a engine such as that...whoa i hope that thing can hold up.....u have had no prblems with that set up yet huh....must be a very well built engine.....

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

well built..hahahahhahhhhhahahhahahahhhaa... if you consider OEM parts as "built" then i guess it is.... all i have is a greddy headgasket nd arp studs, the motor has over 160000miles as well everything else in there is stock from day 1...

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

Where did you buy the Studs and head gasket?? How much did it run you.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

i got the studs from a local shop, found the headgaskset on ebay for 50 buks!!! they retail for 250...i work at a shop so i get everyth at cost so prices for me are different..

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

god bless honda's ability to build a damn good motor eh?

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

im not really too much of a honda fan :-\ even tho i own one....

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

hey boosted,
When you say stock internals do you mean "stock" cam too?
Cause I'd like to see you set up! That is really good #'s
I hope my A6 can compare.

Re:D16a6 as strong a D16Z6?
 

all are stock inernals, cam, crank, rods bla bla bla lba OEM... all that i have done to it is a head gasket and arp head studs other htan that ITS STOCK...