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Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
So i know that you can ditch the old stock crossmember in place of a modifed one like Jim fabs or like bumblebee guy
http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/421591352/13.jpg or even put in a traction bar like the one stevemode sells http://www.-------------------------...tall/lcon1.jpg my queston is is one better than the other or do they both pretty much do the same thing as far as reinforcing the frame rails and not ------- up your alignment or the way your car drives or steers? any info or feedback w ould be great! |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
I have moved to making a style similar to the l-con/full-race due to issures with b-series oil pans, but I still place a brace to one of the factory crossmember bolts. Full-race ramps on how there is better but I have studied the literature on there site and found that their finite analysis in there right up is not valid. I'm in school for engineering and use the excact program the use so I know what I'm/Their talking about.
The tow hook I dea has never really sat when with me in an EF car because of the moment created by the frame horns. The only reason I know make that style is because 1: Its the only way to keep proper geometry with the suspension on b-series cars and 2: SO many companies make it in this format with no problems. I am thinking of a few new deisign to tie the tow rails together without losing the horn to horn support while still giving PLENTY of room for headers & dp's/oil pans. That is one reason why fabrication is on hold. To upgrade designs and to better my product. (and to give me a chance to work on my car!) |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by bumblezc
I have moved to making a style similar to the l-con/full-race due to issures with b-series oil pans, but I still place a brace to one of the factory crossmember bolts. Full-race ramps on how there is better but I have studied the literature on there site and found that their finite analysis in there right up is not valid. I'm in school for engineering and use the excact program the use so I know what I'm/Their talking about.
The tow hook I dea has never really sat when with me in an EF car because of the moment created by the frame horns. The only reason I know make that style is because 1: Its the only way to keep proper geometry with the suspension on b-series cars and 2: SO many companies make it in this format with no problems. I am thinking of a few new deisign to tie the tow rails together without losing the horn to horn support while still giving PLENTY of room for headers & dp's/oil pans. That is one reason why fabrication is on hold. To upgrade designs and to better my product. (and to give me a chance to work on my car!) |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
I really can't say. I have never driven or tested an l-con.
I can beat on another product. Mine are home made in my shop because I have the tools and room and a bit of knowledge due to my schooling. From what I have heard L-Con has a GREAT product. It's just going to have to be what you want to go with. People say they love their Full-Race/L-Con, But people also Rave about JimFabs(which I believe has shut down now). Sorry I can't be of anymore information. Maybe one of these days I will do a side by side (meaning beat on one for 1hr then the other) and come back with my personal results. But first I must get my car back on the road! |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by bumblezc
I have moved to making a style similar to the l-con/full-race due to issures with b-series oil pans, but I still place a brace to one of the factory crossmember bolts. Full-race ramps on how there is better but I have studied the literature on there site and found that their finite analysis in there right up is not valid. I'm in school for engineering and use the excact program the use so I know what I'm/Their talking about.
I've always said the greatest thing about Full-Race is their marketing. |
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Im not sure if we should read that as sarcasim or truth?
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
I believe both of the pictures are two different products that try to accomplish the same thing. If you want technical support on Traction bars, you know who to call.
Bambooseven, hoe. >:D |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
well either way im not planning on buying one, im just trying to decide which design to make.
Its funny how many things you can make when you know how to weld. |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
last week I welded up a shopping cart and made Derek a playhouse. It was firme holmes.
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
last week I welded up a shopping cart and made Derek a playhouse. It was firme holmes.
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by bumblezc
Im not sure if we should read that as sarcasim or truth?
Its the truth. The company managed to convince the internet that the better looking the welds, the more power a manifold will make |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by Whitey
Originally Posted by bumblezc
Im not sure if we should read that as sarcasim or truth?
Its the truth. The company managed to convince the internet that the better looking the welds, the more power a manifold will make so then i guess ill try the L-con design and see what happens |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
is the EF modified crossmember compatable with the 92 DA? looks almost the same. does anybody know?
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by turboDA6
is the EF modified crossmember compatable with the 92 DA? looks almost the same. does anybody know?
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
come to my house :-X ive been that way once, come this way for the first time. we can have a bbq at mission beach or sumthin down here in SD.
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
I think they are. I thought I saw someone on hoda-tech use it with just making a different lower control arm mount.
Anyways. In a few weeks I will have a EG/DA setup completed, I will test fit it to see if it does. |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
How are the traction bars for cornering? Would they improve handling, make it worse, or no difference?
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by bumblezc
I think they are. I thought I saw someone on hoda-tech use it with just making a different lower control arm mount.
Anyways. In a few weeks I will have a EG/DA setup completed, I will test fit it to see if it does. |
Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Sorry man, I meant DC, I'm not an intergra guy so I don't know their Chassis codes
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