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cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 12:45 AM

Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
Hello All.....So i decided it was time to upgrade. I have a 93 teg, ys1 cable tranny. Went with an lsd 6 puck sprung and an hd pp. Everything was put back together correctly, the clutch was installed the correct way, and the pp was torqued down to specs, new t/o bearing with the fork and spring installed correclty, flywheel was scuffed, and all particulates were removed.

I got in the car and was able to move it through all of the gears. When i started the car, pushed in the clutch and tried to put it into gear...wouldnt go....i tried every gear while the car was on and it wouldnt go....i have plenty of pressure at the pedal, ive adjusted the cable down, and up and still no luck. I need to know if anybody has ran into this before, or if im just fucked and have to pull the ---- apart again to find out nothings wrong. Ive heard of people adding spacers to the cable, but wanted to check before i try something like that. thanks for helping me out so far turbohf, just trying to get a few more heads together to see if somethin else is out there!

Smith-02 07-09-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
did you put your motor oil in the wrong hole?

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 01:02 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
awwww you can do better than that cant you

Smith-02 07-09-2007 01:04 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by cll77gen2teg
awwww you can do better than that cant you

too bad your dad didn't :-*

Donald125 07-09-2007 01:09 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
did u check if the fork/cable moves when u step on the clutch?

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 01:13 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
too bad your dad didn't :-*

you must be feeling special today


Originally Posted by Donald125
did u check if the fork/cable moves when u step on the clutch?

yea it moves

Smith-02 07-09-2007 01:14 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by cll77gen2teg
you must be feeling special today

oh baby, i'm special every day ;)

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 01:16 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
oh baby, i'm special every day ;)

ha ha thats good....dont deny that for a second lol....lets get to business here though, my cars been out of commission for 3 days now.

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 04:50 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
no ideas?

Guy-Fast 07-09-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
I have done the spacer and it works



your cable is junk



buy a new one at honda not vato zone




cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
thanks chris ill order a new cable, and while im waiting ill try the spacer. best place for it under the fork agains the bottom of the cable, or up top under the adjustment nut?

krustindumm 07-09-2007 05:36 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
put a hose clamp around the rubber part of the bushing under on the cable, no spacers needed.

i doubt that will fix it though, sounds like you put the PP in backwards.

talonator1488 07-09-2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krustindumm
...sounds like you put the PP in backwards.

Thats some funny ----

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by talonator1488
Thats some funny ----

yea for the fact its impossible....

ProzacOverdose 07-09-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by cll77gen2teg
yea for the fact its impossible....

Maybe he meant your tranny is in on the wrong side? :y

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 06:32 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
this flamin is freakin gay.....try harder, my feelings arent hurt yet

Zeniceguycrx 07-09-2007 07:38 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
the fork has come away from the realease bearing.

if u put it in funky it can come undone/stick on the imput shaft and then this happens, it happened to me

cll77gen2teg 07-09-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
the fork has come away from the realease bearing.

if u put it in funky it can come undone/stick on the imput shaft and then this happens, it happened to me

i was thinking that mayve happened until i pulled up on the cable and i could hear the t/o bearing touching the pp....so not so sure now

Donald125 07-09-2007 08:39 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
just take the whole ---- apart, it doesn`t take long

aqueous 07-10-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
I had this problem with a vehicle of mine awhile back. My clutch ended up fusing to the flywheel after I had extensively cleaned the engine bay and then let the vehicle sit for some months. I ended up spraying a can of brake clean into the inspection area, jacked the car up, started it up in first gear and floored it wildly while pushing in the clutch, it broke loose after a couple attempts. This method is very ghetto, but it worked!

krustindumm 07-10-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by cll77gen2teg
yea for the fact its impossible....

lol, yeah, not possable. Meant friction disc. That is possable.

cll77gen2teg 07-10-2007 01:42 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by aqueous
I had this problem with a vehicle of mine awhile back. My clutch ended up fusing to the flywheel after I had extensively cleaned the engine bay and then let the vehicle sit for some months. I ended up spraying a can of brake clean into the inspection area, jacked the car up, started it up in first gear and floored it wildly while pushing in the clutch, it broke loose after a couple attempts. This method is very ghetto, but it worked!

yea i thought of that happening too, but seems pretty random....mike also brought up the fact that it couldve been possible that the clutch disk was just a hair larger than the pp and its stuck and wont disengage the flywheel...not common, but possible. idk at this point, i tried adding a 1/2 in spacer and still a no go. im gonna keep trying it until i have no other option than to open this bitch up again.

veracity 07-10-2007 02:04 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
i hate to tell you but if you mod or change something on your ride and it puts it down for days without progress, then you've given yourself no other option already. tear it apart and start over. even if you don't SEE anything wrong, you'll probably loosen up anything that's bound up now. good luck

krustindumm 07-10-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by cll77gen2teg
yea i thought of that happening too, but seems pretty random....mike also brought up the fact that it couldve been possible that the clutch disk was just a hair larger than the pp and its stuck and wont disengage the flywheel...not common, but possible. idk at this point, i tried adding a 1/2 in spacer and still a no go. im gonna keep trying it until i have no other option than to open this bitch up again.

putting in a spacer really does nothing. I can't figure any way increases the travel of the cable.

really though, sounds like the friction disc is in backwards.

talonator1488 07-10-2007 11:10 AM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
I think you would notice when you were torquing the pressure plate that clutch disc was in backwards. But I'm not sure I've never done it. Can you see the clutch fork move when the pedal is pressed?

Guy-Fast 07-10-2007 02:37 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
um the spacer is key with alot of the extreme style plates depending on chassis motor etc. My zc cable l3 si trans wouldnt enagage the pressure plate correctly with adding a spacer I welded to the clutch cable bracket. After that worked perfect


.20 cents of piping and 10 minutes

cll77gen2teg 07-10-2007 03:22 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 

Originally Posted by chris
um the spacer is key with alot of the extreme style plates depending on chassis motor etc. My zc cable l3 si trans wouldnt enagage the pressure plate correctly with adding a spacer I welded to the clutch cable bracket. After that worked perfect


.20 cents of piping and 10 minutes

i noticed after adding the spacer that there was really no more room for the arm to come up. it was hitting the tranny where the bar goes inside. im opening it up tonight, its my last choice at this point. just to make sure everythings correct. its just weird that i can hear the t/o bearing touching the pp, but once there is pressure put on the clutch pedal its not disengaging the disk.

cll77gen2teg 07-11-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Clutch not disengaging from f/w
 
alright took the fucker back off.....t/o bearing is working perfectly....problem was the clutch disk was a bit larger than the pressure plate, so even when the t/o would push on the pp fingers, the disk would just stay engaged to the f/w. no damage to the f/w or t/o, just the pp and disk. im waiting to hear back from mike about sending me out another setup, hopefully today. the cars been down since last friday and im tired of catching rides to work! thanks for all the help guys i appreciate it!


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