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MyVtec8yourV8 11-18-2004 08:42 PM

brand new clutch fucked up?
 
OK so yesterday I finaly get the motor running perfect......... and i had wheel bearing problems so i go to the hobby shop today put 2 new wheel bearings and change the oil again. I put it all back together start it up and it wont go in to gear. So i shut it off and push in the clutch and move the shifter threw the gears with no problem. I put it in first and put the clutch down and try to start the car.. and it lurches forward like the clutch isnt disengaging all the way... So im like WTF... So i bleed the slave and there was NO air in the lines. i try to start it again and the same thign happens.. So i put it in neutral and start it and it starts but will not go in to gear. So now im real upset...I have someone pump the clutch as i watch the handle on the tranny and the slave is pushing it a good inch or more. So i pull the starter out to check and see if the pressure plate bolts are all tight.. and they were all tight... i put the starter back in and hop in and start it and the same thign happens.. i walk away for like 5 min cause im realy upset by this time. I hope in again decide im going to drive it ill start it in gear and go.... but i hop in and then it shifts fine...... so i drive it a few blocks and coem back and it was fine... so i clean up my stall then pay the hobby shop and leave.. i went from the hobby shop oon cherry point to half way to the morehead city walmart and i notice a noise when i let off the gas when i accelerate. I tried shifting up and down and it worked ok but made like a wine noise(like the noise your breaks make when they are first turned but a lot louder) so i turn around and come back to base.. i was goign about 55 and i pushed in the clutch let the motor slow down and with the clutch in i put it in each gear it mad the noise when it was in second but not the others. I get to the main gate show my ID and start to take off and hear almost grinding as im letting the clutch out untill its all the way out then the noise stops. When i sit at a idle i hear a noise coming from the tranny sounding like a bad throw out bearing because it stops when i push the clutch in. Now when i put the motor together i put a BRAND new ACT clutch pressure plate and bearing. And yes i used the alignment tool as well. so does anyone have any ideas? I CANT WIN!!!

Reddy 11-18-2004 08:44 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
Why did you make 5 threads? ???

AgentMurdoc 11-18-2004 08:45 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
Why did you make 5 threads? ???

thanks for deleting them. I was making a post telling him to go away for making the same thread with different titles, then I clicked post, and BAM! it was already deleted.

MyVtec8yourV8 11-18-2004 08:45 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
i kept saying could not reach page or soemthign..

AgentMurdoc 11-18-2004 08:46 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
whitey you missed one, take care of it ;)
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=31237

themadhatter 11-18-2004 08:47 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
why the ---- did you post this so many times ??

MyVtec8yourV8 11-18-2004 08:48 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
ok YUK YUK YUK funny funny... Thanks for deleating them.. Im a tard or something.... NOW anyone got any ideas on the clutch problem?

kain 11-18-2004 08:49 PM

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god damn it he already explained it. ----, now just answer his questions.

B16MIKE 11-18-2004 09:08 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
Did you place the clutch disc in the right way?if you put it in backwards it will do that.or the little clips that hold the throwout bearing on the sides come loose.the really bad news is your probably gonna have to drop the tranny again.

MyVtec8yourV8 11-18-2004 10:17 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
Well i thought maby i put the clutch in backwards but i looked at the old one and it will not fit in backwards it wont bolt up. if its backwards.. now if the tabs on the bearing slipped off or what ever the bearig would still stay there cause its on the shaft correct?
and with this h22 in my accord there is no room to drop just the tranny... ARGGGGGG

88dx 11-18-2004 11:20 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
its hard to say what it is with out actually hearing the noise :-\. My guess would be its something with your throw out bearing or pressure plate. what kind of shape is your tranny in?

MyVtec8yourV8 11-18-2004 11:48 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
tranny worked PERFECT befor i had the motor rebuilt and i have done nothing to the trany since... except the new clutch kit... someone on H-t said maby its a spring that poped out of the clutch but i cant think thats possible on a brand new clutch

Donald125 11-19-2004 02:52 AM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
almost the exact same thing happened to me before.
expect it didn`t make THAT much noise.
reason is:
http://image07.webshots.com/7/9/97/9...2JMZtlz_ph.jpg
http://image07.webshots.com/7/9/98/4...4OpUexZ_ph.jpg
u didn`t lube it up enough and the ACT PP is puting a lot more pressure on it than before.
EDIT:
GOOD LUCK :P ;D

MyVtec8yourV8 11-19-2004 12:23 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
---- this sucks ass... has anyone dropped just the tranny on a h22? there is less room in my accord than in a lude but i seems it woudl be faster to pull the whole motor... anyone?

Donald125 11-19-2004 12:31 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
we worked on Renr`s accord with stock motor, it`s a BITCH to just drop the tranny out by itself. not to mention puttign it back in :-\

i think it will be like 100times easier to take the whole thing out. :-X

MyVtec8yourV8 11-19-2004 01:54 PM

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here are a FEW VID CLIPS of the noise.. dont worry about what your looking at just listen to the noise. keep in mind that the noise stops when you press the clutch.
http://superorb.tiora.net/pics/Misc/Jeff/
also http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

Donald125 11-19-2004 02:08 PM

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woo that sounds scary.... :o:-\
i would def. stop driving it and rip the tranny out to see what happened.

robs99si 11-19-2004 02:10 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
i bet the problem lyes in the clutch linkage engagment. there's something wrong with the hydraulic thing that engages the clutch. when i installed my clutch the pedal was as light as a feather and i looked at the tranny and the thing that presses on the fork wasn't placed against the fork. worked good after i put it where it belongs. check the simple things first before you do something major.

MyVtec8yourV8 11-19-2004 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
i bet the problem lyes in the clutch linkage engagment. there's something wrong with the hydraulic thing that engages the clutch. when i installed my clutch the pedal was as light as a feather and i looked at the tranny and the thing that presses on the fork wasn't placed against the fork. worked good after i put it where it belongs. check the simple things first before you do something major.

I checked the slave cylinder already.... but if it was that where woudl that clunking come from? all it woudl do if the cylinder wasnt working is it wouldnt dis engage the clutch all the way

robs99si 11-19-2004 03:46 PM

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did you put oil in the tranny?

MyVtec8yourV8 11-19-2004 03:57 PM

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Update**
I just drove it one more time to have someone else listen to it. On the way home i wanted to see what happened whil moving....
well it does not matter how fast the car is going... because when i step on the cluch and put it in neutral and i rev the rpms up to 4.5k or higher it has that loud grrrrrrrrrrrrr sound.. not a gring but not a rattle... kinda of like a fast rattle..


accordepicenter 11-19-2004 04:01 PM

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i put my solid hub 3 puck disc in backwards on the old clutch kit (that didnt last long anyway) but the rivets on the disc hub would grind on my flywheel bolts and make quite a bit of noise and somtimes refuse to go in gear. Eventually the grinding stopped altogether.

MyVtec8yourV8 11-19-2004 04:13 PM

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i didnt think it woudl go in backwards. the clutch is flat on one side and raised for the springs on the other side.

MyVtec8yourV8 11-21-2004 12:24 AM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
did you put oil in the tranny?

I never took the oil out of the tranny when i had the motor rebuilt. but no i didnt check the lvl to be sure it was topped off thats what im doing first thing tomarow.. if thats not it ill pull the motor and check the clutch.

turboboy 11-21-2004 10:37 AM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 

Originally Posted by MyVtec8yourV8

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
did you put oil in the tranny?

I never took the oil out of the tranny when i had the motor rebuilt. but no i didnt check the lvl to be sure it was topped off thats what im doing first thing tomarow.. if thats not it ill pull the motor and check the clutch.

when you pulled the axles to get the motor out, most of the trans fluid should have come out :-\

MyVtec8yourV8 11-23-2004 10:33 PM

Re:brand new clutch fucked up?
 
just as a update.... loctite is your friend

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL695...1/74103898.jpg


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