Bastard Porsche
01-07-2009, 11:49 PM
#51
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Re: Bastard Porsche
Originally Posted by enikolayev
Where can i get a rebuild kit for $350? please show me. So far i haven't found anything under $500 for pistons and cylinders only.
About the rust, the car didn't have much under the battery tray but what was there i have already fixed.
About the rust, the car didn't have much under the battery tray but what was there i have already fixed.
Well, looks like the economy sucks bad enough that apparently aircooled parts prices arent what they were a year ago. I retract my previous statement.
Eniko, how much power do you want?
01-08-2009, 12:20 AM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
First off, small block swap works great in a chassis that can handle it, (911) but the 914 cant. 914 feel like roasted dog crap from the factory, small block doesnt help any. Regardless what you do to it, you need to dick around with the suspension to get the most out of it. Lucky for you, early 911 suspension damn near bolts up.
Ideally, you should find a 3.2L from an 80's 911 SC, as it ------- bolts in, is simple as ----, and can be boosted from now till doomsday. But finding a good deal on one can be tough.
If I were to build a 914, i would try to keep it as SIMPLE as possible. You are gonna kick yourself for building this car anyway, but in the end it will be worth it. They suck *** to work on from the factory, and things that have subaru stamped on them arent going to help your cause in that regard.
In the end you need to decide:
How much do you REALLY want to spend realistically?
Is reliability an issue?
You wanna tune FI or a Carb?
Water cooled means forever molesting your front trunk.
Racing it street? Drag? Road course?
Ideally, you should find a 3.2L from an 80's 911 SC, as it ------- bolts in, is simple as ----, and can be boosted from now till doomsday. But finding a good deal on one can be tough.
If I were to build a 914, i would try to keep it as SIMPLE as possible. You are gonna kick yourself for building this car anyway, but in the end it will be worth it. They suck *** to work on from the factory, and things that have subaru stamped on them arent going to help your cause in that regard.
In the end you need to decide:
How much do you REALLY want to spend realistically?
Is reliability an issue?
You wanna tune FI or a Carb?
Water cooled means forever molesting your front trunk.
Racing it street? Drag? Road course?
01-08-2009, 12:46 AM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
Road course is where its at, especially in a 914. When it used to run i was able to lift the inside front tire in corners. I suck at carbs so FI is a must and i'm not too worried about the front trunk.
I have heard about the 911 suspension and brakes being easy swaps but i'm wondering how much better they are, they do come from the same era after all.
I'm not good at budgets either, always go over anyway. But i should be able to find a nicely wrecked wrx for ~3500
I have heard about the 911 suspension and brakes being easy swaps but i'm wondering how much better they are, they do come from the same era after all.
I'm not good at budgets either, always go over anyway. But i should be able to find a nicely wrecked wrx for ~3500
01-08-2009, 12:47 AM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
lifting front tires = too soft of front susp/poor weight balance
carbs are ------- easy. spend half an hour reading on how to tune a holley or a weber from people (not a site) that knows what the ---- they're doing
carbs are ------- easy. spend half an hour reading on how to tune a holley or a weber from people (not a site) that knows what the ---- they're doing
01-08-2009, 12:59 AM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
lifting front tires = too soft of front susp/poor weight balance
carbs are ------- easy. spend half an hour reading on how to tune a holley or a weber from people (not a site) that knows what the ---- they're doing
carbs are ------- easy. spend half an hour reading on how to tune a holley or a weber from people (not a site) that knows what the ---- they're doing
The first car i worked on ('66 bug) had dual 45mm Dellortos (kind of large for a stock engine) since i wasn't able to get those right i have given up on carbs.
01-08-2009, 01:03 AM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
Originally Posted by enikolayev
Still looks cool from the outside.
The first car i worked on ('66 bug) had dual 45mm Dellortos (kind of large for a stock engine) since i wasn't able to get those right i have given up on carbs.
The first car i worked on ('66 bug) had dual 45mm Dellortos (kind of large for a stock engine) since i wasn't able to get those right i have given up on carbs.
01-13-2009, 11:18 AM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
First off, small block swap works great in a chassis that can handle it, (911) but the 914 cant. 914 feel like roasted dog crap from the factory, small block doesnt help any. Regardless what you do to it, you need to dick around with the suspension to get the most out of it. Lucky for you, early 911 suspension damn near bolts up.
Ideally, you should find a 3.2L from an 80's 911 SC, as it ------- bolts in, is simple as ----, and can be boosted from now till doomsday. But finding a good deal on one can be tough.
If I were to build a 914, i would try to keep it as SIMPLE as possible. You are gonna kick yourself for building this car anyway, but in the end it will be worth it. They suck *** to work on from the factory, and things that have subaru stamped on them arent going to help your cause in that regard.
In the end you need to decide:
How much do you REALLY want to spend realistically?
Is reliability an issue?
You wanna tune FI or a Carb?
Water cooled means forever molesting your front trunk.
Racing it street? Drag? Road course?
Ideally, you should find a 3.2L from an 80's 911 SC, as it ------- bolts in, is simple as ----, and can be boosted from now till doomsday. But finding a good deal on one can be tough.
If I were to build a 914, i would try to keep it as SIMPLE as possible. You are gonna kick yourself for building this car anyway, but in the end it will be worth it. They suck *** to work on from the factory, and things that have subaru stamped on them arent going to help your cause in that regard.
In the end you need to decide:
How much do you REALLY want to spend realistically?
Is reliability an issue?
You wanna tune FI or a Carb?
Water cooled means forever molesting your front trunk.
Racing it street? Drag? Road course?
I have driven many 914-6's and a few V8 cars. While the ones that use older iron blocks do take away greatly from the car, a car with an LSX based engine will actually weigh less then one with a 3.2 conversion...and be a LOT faster. You can pickup an L33 (alum block) LSX from an avalanche for as cheap as $500, it's 310 Hp stock.
The main problem you run into with any of these conversions is not only needing to upgrade the tranny but also the cost of adapters and clutch setups.
The strongest tranny you can get is the 930 (without going to a mega buck G50) , it's only a 4spd but has been proven up to 600hp in GT-40 kit cars, Ultima's ect. It still uses a tube style shifter and cable clutch. But expect to pay $2-$5000 for a good one. More if you want LSD.
My old man and I built this. It's a 930 turbo trans with revised gearing, webo Short shift ($500) 6 link rear suspension, drag pac axles with 930 CV's on the outers. Motor is a 03 LS1, LS6 cam, JBA headers, LS1 Edit..ect
Stick with the VW motor and turbo it, You can get a built tranny faily cheap as someone else mentioned. Most of the fast guys even use a draw through system, no IC's to worry about and a small Quadrajet from a 267.
If you want another route other then renegade Hybrid's look up kennedy engineering
01-13-2009, 12:02 PM
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Re: Bastard Porsche
Originally Posted by Lowerit
My old man has had about 15 porsche's and I can tell you a 3.2 doesn't just bolt in and poses the same problems as other engines (exhaust, mounts, ect..ect).
Originally Posted by Lowerit
The 901 Shitbag tranny in the 914 is crap. I have yet to see a 3.2 car (or even a 3.0) that didn't need a tranny rebuilt, and even at that the 915 they use is somewhat weak as well.
Originally Posted by Lowerit
I have driven many 914-6's and a few V8 cars. While the ones that use older iron blocks do take away greatly from the car, a car with an LSX based engine will actually weigh less then one with a 3.2 conversion...and be a LOT faster.
Originally Posted by Lowerit
You can pickup an L33 (alum block) LSX from an avalanche for as cheap as $500, it's 310 Hp stock.
Originally Posted by Lowerit
The strongest tranny you can get is the 930 (without going to a mega buck G50) , it's only a 4spd but has been proven up to 600hp in GT-40 kit cars, Ultima's ect. It still uses a tube style shifter and cable clutch. But expect to pay $2-$5000 for a good one. More if you want LSD.
BTW, +1 for making a Corvair what it should have been from the factory.
Originally Posted by Lowerit
Stick with the VW motor and turbo it, You can get a built tranny faily cheap as someone else mentioned. Most of the fast guys even use a draw through system, no IC's to worry about and a small Quadrajet from a 267.
