b16 or LS trans for turbo ls/vtec
 

I have a 92 teg that came with a b16 swap as an extra. I fixed the stock b18 and threw an hx-35 on. I always believed the 'vtec is just unnecessary extra cost and moving parts just go with cams in an ls' motto, and that with turbo the b16 trans will be too short gearing and lots of tire spin.

This thread finally convinced me to go with the b16 head, I mean I already have the damn thing.
So what's the general concensus on the trans? My stocker has 186k and a couple high rpm grinds going into 3rd. I looked at the b16 when I was throwing it in and EVERYTHING looks pristine, inside the valve cover and oil pan. ---- the fork for the throw out bearing had no wear compared to my ls trans. But I have no clue about it's history and have never had it in a car. I never thought about using the b16 until i offered to sell it to someone and I'm making sure I'm not making a big mistake. The car is my daily driver right now when it's working :X and I can only drive one car for legal issuse, so gas mileage is a concern. But I enjoy taking it to the local legal street races and thinking about taking it to the track more often once I put my pistons and rods in and get it tuned.

Am I right about leaning to keep the ls?

cliffs:

b16 head, ls block with rods and pistons: which tranny

unknown condition b16 or stock ls?

thanks guys

Re: b16 or LS trans for turbo ls/vtec
 

b16a trans

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end this thread

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figures I just put a clutch in the teg and promised the b16 tranny to someone that wants to pick it up tomorrow

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yeah thats a stupid ass ------ question... why dont we throw a ------ auto trans behind it?


AWAYS use a VTEC tranny, even if you have a ------ LS motor...use a VTEC tranny if its available...

ITR
B16
GSR
...
...
...
...
....and if you have to LS

Re: b16 or LS trans for turbo ls/vtec
 

Well I'm glad I looked like an ass and asked the stupid question, I was about to sell the tranny.

Thanks

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you didnt tell me you were going vtak, or i didnt listen

no vtak tanny with vtak = falling out of powerband, miserably slow every shift
vtak tranny with no vtak = redlining at highway cruise

Re: b16 or LS trans for turbo ls/vtec
 

what have you been smoking? im at about 4-4.5k at cruise and thats at like 80mph...

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From what I understand. All of the Pro's use the shortest gearing possible, and just play with tire size... :y

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my stock LS tranny was 4k at 80mph... sooo 4k @ 80mph with a shortgeared tranny that tops out 30mph shorter... no.
not that I doubt you you know your ----, just saying

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I thought that LS at 80mph was 4k
GSR at 80mph was 4.5k
and B16 at 80mph was 5k

Might just be my B16 and LS trans' though? :l

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my jdm cable ys1 trans in my one crx is doing 4k at 65mph. 4k rpm @80 mph is def. a S1 LS trans. The car has stock sized tires at on the stock Si rims, so its not like I'm running a really short tire that bumps up the gear ratio. The only reason I have kept this trans in the car over using a S1 trans is the LSD. Its really annoying in traffic due to the short gearing and ur constantly shifting but then again not everyone has to deal with traffic. But thats my opinion

Re: b16 or LS trans for turbo ls/vtec
 

B-series Tranny Specs

http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...n-specs-29132/

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I run complete Ls cable tranny internals inside of my b16 shell, and I have no problem accelerating even in 5th gear, I setup my vtec to kick at 50% throttle so I can cruise out of vtec, but no matter what gear I'm in I can pickup immediately. my 5th is very long though.

Re: b16 or LS trans for turbo ls/vtec
 

my obd2 s80 gsr trans was 80mph @ 4k 5th gear now i have a obd2 s80 ls and its 90mph @4k -- 5th gear :y

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i must have some crazy hybrid stupid ---- tranny...

last i looked. 69-70 mph, I run 4200 rpm.
jdm s1 FTW

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I need to change my 2nd and 3rd gear now,
I was at the track yesterday, and I was crossing the 1/4 line in 3rd gear, and 192 kph, almost 120mph. 9400rpm
I usually crossed in 4th redlined at 9400rpm, usually run 12's now I am running 13.1

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i have a 4.9 final drive for an obd1+ ls/b16 tranny if you wanna spend money on something

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the thing is that I don't understand this whole transmission geqring thing, I am researching to see what I need to do.
I have b16a2 transmission internals in my garage, I just need to figure out whats compatible to run from both transmission to get the most out of my setup.
example 2,3,4 from the b16a2 transmission, and the 1,5 th gear and final drive from the LS transmission. does that make any sense? will that work? the b16 tranny is 4.40 correct?

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1 2 is not changeable like the rest
its part of the shaft

besides I like long 1-2 for big power setups
3-4 can be short
the final drive makes you reach redline faster

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so I should use the final drive from the b16 transmission along with the 1st and 2nd gear. and use the 4th and 5th from the LS transmission?

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Wheres Bone when you need him?

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buddy of mine has 500+ whp in his rex. he has lsd b16 s1 tranny now like i have. Hes ready to switch to ls. tops out before the 1/4 is over.