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Toysrme 05-22-2007 03:41 PM

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Well that post's no more random than this thread so cheers lol!

ifly87 05-22-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS13
diesel trucks should rev higher to take advantage of their turbos. they would be unstoppable!

The problem with that is diesel is a slower burning fuel, when you get them reving up the piston is traveling downwards faster that the combustion is pushing it. some people use other gasses like propane to speed up combustion a little bit.

RotaryGeek 05-22-2007 06:58 PM

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i was always told that the bottom ends on the n/a models were pretty stout. In my opinion, DSM's are good cars if you are mechanically inclined enough and don't mind dumping lots of money in it to get it reliable enough to dd. It is amazing how much boost a stock bottom end can push and how easy it is to get a tsi into the 13.xx's. But i would say close to 50% of the people on here are not inclined enough to do in depth work on anything other than a honda. Don't get me wrong. Im not bashing hondas in anyway, shape, or form, Just stating that once you learn a honda, most people get the mind set that they are too easy and get nervous working on other make/model cars/truck. Gotta admit though that hondas are seriously fun/cheap cars. Im fixing to buy another one next month.

DirtydseriesWoot 05-22-2007 11:22 PM

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dsm= cockroach :6 :6 :6

stillnoturbo 05-22-2007 11:56 PM

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My GVR4 has been running fine since I bought it back in November. Only needed to replace a blown radiator. Yeah the clutch slips over 14psi and the stock 14B was puffing some blue smoke but it's all original stuff with 179k on them and 15 years old. So it's too be expected on a turbo'd car and a DSM at that also so to say it was driven . I'm not complaining with my DSM. You can say all your crankwalk ---- but it's saying how many cable b-series trannies don't grind.

aero 05-23-2007 01:00 AM

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The bottom ends are the same other than oil squirters and the pistons. Quite a few people prefer to start with a n/a block and crank for building. Hasn't been abused as much, lack of squirters makes building a stroker easier clearance wise.

JDMFantasy2K 05-23-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmjunkie
Posted in response to people who need to learn their ---- or pay amechanic to call them a retard.
I'm reffrencing on 1st gen 4g63's, since the 2nd gen 7-bolt is a crankwalking piece of ----.
First off the whole point of a turbo is a shorter stroke(higher rev's), and the ability to keep compression ratios within safe fuel delivery constraints(dropped compression balancing increase in volume of air delivery). The turbo block has a different rod and crank set-(dropped compression-7.6:1 vs (9.2:1). The head bolts do not match- close but your stll fucked. No tap point for the knock sensor is present, along with coolant and oil return taps, are present on the n/a engine. The same oil and cooling problems are present in the n/a head- along with cams that are to mild for the increased fuel and air. You can try to bolt up a turbo exh. manifold to a n/a block with a 14 lb. turbine, and and advance the cams, but you'll probably eating 16 valves. You could drop comp. with a copper head gasket and run a 7lb. or smaller turbine, but the stock ecu won't keep up with the fuel demands, you'll have to run on open loop to defeat the mass air flow, and your exh. valves
will eventually burn- if you dont detonate to the point where your thrust bearings and wristpins take a big smelly ----. Get a turbo long block, and a control unit that can handle whatever boost levels you are running, or an ecu compatible with the car your engine came from. No offense, just learn your ---- before you start turnin' the wrench. ;)

haha silly faggot DSM are for homos :y

i really pissed myself about the part where he said you can run a copper headgasket to lower the 9.2:1 compression haha. Considering half the members on this board run 10.5:1 hondas with boost.

aero 05-24-2007 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2K
haha silly faggot DSM are for homos :y

i really pissed myself about the part where he said you can run a copper headgasket to lower the 9.2:1 compression haha. Considering half the members on this board run 10.5:1 hondas with boost.

Unfortunatly we don't have the cheap and quality tuning options a honda has to deal with the narrow tuning window on that compression. Megasquirt is great but not many people are willing to put the time into that. Other than that is the SD code for the 1g's but not many people do that either.

Oscar 05-24-2007 03:30 AM

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what about dsmlink?
sorry, i dont know ---- about dsms. I heard some guys talking about it at the track once, lol.

aero 05-24-2007 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
what about dsmlink?
sorry, i dont know ---- about dsms. I heard some guys talking about it at the track once, lol.

Its
DSMlink is nice, but its not cheap like it is to tune a Honda. Its $565+ socketing + an EEPROM Ecu if you weren't lucky enough to have one stock.


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