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RedCavz 09-18-2007 08:48 PM

your threads suck, so help me make a gasket
 
need gasket material for an intake and exhaust mani since my head ports will no longer support a shaved stock gasket.

im getting this for the intake side and going to cut my own.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

also getting the exhaust side while i'm at it. question is whats the difference? the steel/carbon is almost 3x expensive as the acrylic. am i going to even be able to cut the steal/graphite core by hand? is there a difference?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

suggestions?

SkunT 09-18-2007 09:07 PM

Re: your threads suck, so help me make a gasket
 
permex and lots of it.

NismoPlsr 09-18-2007 09:10 PM

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For the exhaust gasket, i dont know why they say you can use acrylic. If it use truly arcylic it will melt and ooze out at roughly 266degF.

You should be able to cut the graphite/steel. Im not sure what would be the best way. Maybe some sheet metal shears or even a few razor blades, or perhaps a bandsaw. Try a few things see what works best.

buk9tp 09-18-2007 09:18 PM

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you can get it cheaper on ebay..
let me know how it works out for ya

Tom-Guy 09-18-2007 10:40 PM

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Run no gaskets on the exhaust side. Short of a proper MLS unit like the Honduh ones a gasket will just fail prematurely.

Run a belt sander across your manifold head flange to make sure it's flat, and torque it from the center out so it doesn't bow up during installation. You'll be fine.

AWDstylez 09-18-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Run no gaskets on the exhaust side. Short of a proper MLS unit like the Honduh ones a gasket will just fail prematurely.

Run a belt sander across your manifold head flange to make sure it's flat, and torque it from the center out so it doesn't bow up during installation. You'll be fine.

$1,000 says that leaks like the Titanic.

Tom-Guy 09-18-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
$1,000 says that leaks like the Titanic.

$1,000 says I've been turboing cars a decade before you ever got your learner's permit, and that I know a thing or two.

Thanks for playing. :-*

90CRXSiR 09-18-2007 11:00 PM

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using a belt sander could just be agrevatiing a leak. not knowing if its truely flat and not knowing how much youre grinding down could be bad.





:y

AWDstylez 09-18-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
$1,000 says I've been turboing cars a decade before you ever got your learner's permit, and that I know a thing or two.

Thanks for playing. :-*

$2,000 says you don't get your manifolds from where he (and I) gets his manifolds and you also don't realize that his par factor > your par factor.

absolutezroo 09-18-2007 11:19 PM

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The titanic didn't leak until it hit an iceberg dipshit. I agree with JD partially. I would just work with the stock MLS gasket and maybe some copper spray. Or make it out of copper flashing. The exhaust flange should flex, meaning if torqued properly, it Should seal pretty well against a clean surface.

Tom-Guy 09-18-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 90CRXSiR
using a belt sander could just be agrevatiing a leak. not knowing if its truely flat and not knowing how much youre grinding down could be bad.

You've obviously never tried it. I use belt sanders on cylinder heads to short to fit on my machinist's rotary broach - smaller V6 and Metro heads, check with a straight edge, perfection.




Originally Posted by AWDstylez
$2,000 says you don't get your manifolds from where he (and I) gets his manifolds and you also don't realize that his par factor > your par factor.

Seeing as how I build my own personal manifolds, you are correct. However, seeing as how I touch more cars than your manifold builder makes manifolds for I'm going to stick with what I know works fine. Thanks for playing, though.


Ravage70 09-18-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
You've obviously never tried it. I use belt sanders on cylinder heads to short to fit on my machinist's rotary broach - smaller V6 and Metro heads, check with a straight edge, perfection.



Seeing as how I build my own personal manifolds, you are correct. However, seeing as how I touch more cars than your manifold builder makes manifolds for I'm going to stick with what I know works fine. Thanks for playing, though.


Belt sander is the cure for all!
Hemroids? BELT SAND THAT ----!

Smith-02 09-18-2007 11:58 PM

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belt sanders of the large type make great decking tools for heads and blocks

AWDstylez 09-19-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Seeing as how I build my own personal manifolds, you are correct. However, seeing as how I touch more cars than your manifold builder makes manifolds for I'm going to stick with what I know works fine. Thanks for playing, though.

I never said you didn't know more or that it wouldn't work for you. I simply said I would be willing to put money on HIS particular manifold leaking if he tried to run no gasket.

90accordIHI 09-19-2007 12:11 PM

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who was it that made the gasket out of a soda can. that ---- was dope.

awdstyles is a faggot also

ososlohatch 09-19-2007 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 90boostdaccord
who was it that made the gasket out of a soda can. that ---- was dope.

awdstyles is a faggot also

yes
and yes
belt sand- two bored out factory gaskets-copper spray FTW !!!!!!!!!

Scott-EP 09-19-2007 12:29 PM

Re: your threads suck, so help me make a gasket
 
i made a turbo gasket out of .06" aluminum and it works awesome. no signs of a leak at all

Tom-Guy 09-19-2007 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
I never said you didn't know more or that it wouldn't work for you. I simply said I would be willing to put money on HIS particular manifold leaking if he tried to run no gasket.

You can't beltsand hotrex herpes blisters off of one of his manifolds, true. You and Petey paid for his ----?? I thought Petey just backhanded the old bag across the mouth until Josh started puling like a little girl, and gave Petey a manifold to go away.


Originally Posted by 90boostdaccord
awdstyles is a faggot also

+1

scottsi 09-19-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
I never said you didn't know more or that it wouldn't work for you. I simply said I would be willing to put money on HIS particular manifold leaking if he tried to run no gasket.

So youre saying that the manifolds corey makes have warped head flanges?

klyph 09-19-2007 12:54 PM

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AWDstyles is probably thinking about a belt sander like this:
http://content.answers.com/main/cont...nder_bosch.jpg
Whereas JD probably means one like this:
http://www.automatictransmission.com...40Extreme3.jpg

Tom-Guy 09-19-2007 03:41 PM

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I've used both, haha. Only time I used the ghetto portable one is on a Metro head, though.

Hitchhikkr 09-19-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I've used both, haha. Only time I used the ghetto portable one is on a Metro head, though.

Portable is probably bigger than the metro head, so yeah.

For the record, JD is 100% correct. If the machined surfaces mate perfectly, it will not leak. Ive ran numerous dsms/porsche like that and now my daily driven turbo LS with exactly no leaks.

Some porsche come from the factory without exhaust gaskets at all.

Gaskets are a compromise for the factory quality.

AWDstylez 09-19-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
So youre saying that the manifolds corey makes have warped head flanges?

I have yet to see a manifold made by anyone that is flat enough to not need a gasket. My milled head flange has leaks even with a thick gasket and my belt sanded (by a professional machinist) turbo flange leaks like a ----------er with a metal gasket AND a ---- ton of orange RTV. My untouched WG flange seals fine with RTV and a metal gasket, go figure. ::)

Aside from all of that, you're failing to realize how little sealing surface Pete has with that ported head.



Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
You can't beltsand hotrex herpes blisters off of one of his manifolds, true. You and Petey paid for his ----?? I thought Petey just backhanded the old bag across the mouth until Josh started puling like a little girl, and gave Petey a manifold to go away.

Yea that's exactly how it went. ::)

scottsi 09-19-2007 05:02 PM

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You're stupid, your car is slow and broken, and domestics rule.

Tom-Guy 09-19-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
You're stupid, your car is slow and broken, and domestics rule.

+1

Econo-Box 09-19-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
My milled head flange has leaks and my turbo flange leaks like a ----------er

Your car sounds like a piece of ----. isn't it missing gears and stuff too? damn son may be time to give that haggard ass parts car a rest.

AWDstylez 09-19-2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
You're stupid, your car is slow and broken, and domestics rule.

Slow by who's standards? Slow by 12.9 @ 109mph 100 shot using LS1 owners standards? I laugh at that thought. Drive your dumbestic boat off a bridge and see if it floats.



Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
+1

Take me up on my bet if you're so confident.

NismoPlsr 09-19-2007 05:41 PM

Re: your threads suck, so help me make a gasket
 
Try out that gasket stuff and let us know how it goes.

Tom-Guy 09-19-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Take me up on my bet if you're so confident.

What, the $1000 bet that the OEM-proven gasketless solution leaks like the Titanic, or the $2000 bet that I don't get my manifolds where you get yours? :1

AWDstylez 09-19-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
What, the $1000 bet that the OEM-proven gasketless solution leaks like the Titanic, or the $2000 bet that I don't get my manifolds where you get yours? :1

For someone of your intelligence level I would expect a higher level of reading comprehension.

I'm refering to the $1,000 bet that HIS manifold (no one else's, just his) will leak if HE (not you, not anyone else) uses no gasket.
Never said anything about gasketless manifolds not working because everyone knows it does (or at least should). I mentioned only HIS manifold.

I already won the manifold source bet so that isn't fair.

RedCavz 09-19-2007 05:51 PM

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That would be too easy if it worked, which is why i'm not so confident I guess. I'll try beltsanding the flange, but as for the head, it's on the car so that's a no go. I guess just hope it's flat and give it a try. :l

Tom-Guy 09-19-2007 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
For someone of your intelligence level I would expect a higher level of reading comprehension.

I'm refering to the $1,000 bet that HIS manifold (no one else's, just his) will leak if HE (not you, not anyone else) uses no gasket.

No, I got the picture that Petey's manifold is a lump of dogshit. What you don't seem to understand is that you are my verbal chewtoy, and I'm enjoying all this at my leisure.


Petey, take the damn manifold off and do it right. Any car that you've gone through from top to bottom is going to require a lot more work than that to sort it and make it right. Bite the bullet and make it so, Number One.

Econo-Box 09-19-2007 05:58 PM

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you and jonny are a match made in heaven.

AWDstylez 09-19-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
No, I got the picture that Petey's manifold is a lump of dogshit.

It's also non-existant. But that's ok, I'll go back to being your "verbal chewtoy" and letting you tell me how it is. ::)

RedCavz 09-19-2007 06:10 PM

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Right JD. I don't even have a manifold yet. Was ordering stuff from summit last night and wanted to save on shipping since its 13.99 per order (mostly regardless of what you get), so i'd figure i'd post and see what others thought so I could bundle it in with the rest of my order. Didn't know this was going to turn into a 30+ reply pissing match.

AWDstylez 09-19-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
Didn't know this was going to turn into a 30+ reply pissing match.

I was only shooting for 15.

Secondaries 09-19-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
No, I got the picture that Petey's manifold is a lump of dogshit. What you don't seem to understand is that you are my verbal chewtoy, and I'm enjoying all this at my leisure.

I'm in my university math class as I read this, and I laughed out loud when i read that... GG JD.

scottsi 09-19-2007 07:53 PM

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My car will ---- on Tylers car all day everyday. Plus I have a 2nd gear, and a 6th.

fe3tcourier 09-19-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Run a belt sander across your manifold head flange to make sure it's flat, and torque it from the center out so it doesn't bow up during installation. You'll be fine.

here is the problem. JD failed to type correct english. there is a vast difference between "run a belt sander across a head" and "run a head across a belt sander". though, i'd like to see the muscle bound freak that could do the former with the large type ;-)

i sense a certain air of arrogance in you JD that makes my own look benign and negligible.

one thing is certain, using a handheld belt sander where the flat running surface is smaller than the work piece will mean that it gets less flat. not more flat.

using rtv on an exhaust? umm? hmm?

proper mls gaskets with nothing except two flat surfaces is the way to go. other solutions vary between major hack, and slight hack, and out of reach of back yard mechanic.

Smith-02 09-19-2007 08:23 PM

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fel pro karropak makes good gasket material, and comes in different grades. its like like 'permatex' brand of stuff, karropak = felpro diy gaske t rolls


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