Your opinion on the SRT-4
 

I know most people on this forum drive hondas, and love hondas, i am one of them. Im just wondering everyones opinion on the SRT-4. I am thinking about getting one. anyone heard of any problems or anything wrong with them? how are they as far as aftermarket performance? i know the turbo and manifold setup is gay but anything else besides that?

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Mitsubushi Powered ----. Is it a 6 speed.

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mitsu ??? and no its not 6 speed. I used to like them till every lil punk kid around here bought one and put neons on them

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haha this confused me, I was like what the ---- why would you put neons on a neon. Then I realized you were talking about lights and not the car :P

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I would get it if building an all out racer maybe

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Isn't this a repost, didnt someone just ask about the SRT-4 a few weeks back? :P

There's a local kid running around with a semi-decked out Neon, as far as I know he's had no problems with it, and he beats the balls off of that thing too. I like 'em, I'd definetly get one if I could. ;D

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Good car and I have to admit well done for a 4-cylinder domestic car. Runs mid 14's at the tracks.

In terms of reliability, well see what the future holds...

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they are very good cars, very strong, very fast and a 7 year 7 0,000 mile warranty.

plus they carry a sticker of like 21,000 AND GIVE EVO'S AND WRX'S A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY


but guys come on, we all cant forget the fact that...









IT IS STILL A NEON,

NO MATTER HOW FAST THEY MAKE IT, IT WILL ALWAYS BE A NEON

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Ya, Mitsubishi make the Engine for it as do they the engine in my 1997 Mazda 626.

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Umm, I thought 626's were powered by Ford Probe engines. I dunno maybe I'm wrong.

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Ya the v6's have the Probe GT engine. But my 1997 626 engine has Mitsubishi all over it. Except the Valve cover. It kinda reminds me of a 4G63.

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its purely a dodge designed engine

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Damnit, I saw it on road and track. They said it was powered by Mitsubishi. But, Im probably way ------ off as usual. But i know my 626 is Mitsu powered.

Chris

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NEONS SUCK! Can we kill this question once and for all?

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Thanks for your opinions, now i cant decide if i want a SRT-4 or a WRX (non STI i cant afford that) they're both around the same price and the wrx is AWD :) idk i will have to drive 'em both

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damn dood not this ---- again. i already asked this ----. haha

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damn dood not this ---- again. i already asked this ----. haha

oh damn my bad :-[

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if your trying to compare a wrx and a srt4.... hm... I'd go with the wrx because of the AWD.... but its ur call

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why do ppl blow it over awd. WRXs handle like ass, srt4s run around em

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There is nothing on the market that will out perform one of those ------- SRT-4 Neon's for the price. I've drove one and was semi impressed I guess you could say. I kinda like the fact that they dont have mufflers and have a pretty cool sound to them. They spool incredibly fast and LSD is going to be a Must. Things I didnt like, when I first got in it, I was like ok this is definatly a Neon. American interior styling is the ------- worst and is so cheezy its ridicuouls. Plus the way it feels around corners was just a slush bucket.

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For the 100th time this is a 100% dodge built motor - The Tranny is a german built Getrag but they have been using those since the 80's. in their performance cars.

Even the motor in the NA eclipse from 95-99 is a dodge motor not Mitsu. It's a neon with an Eclipse Body kit :P

The new 2.4 in the Stratus and Avenger is a Mitsubishi but there is no relationship between these motors. except the displacement.

I can't understand where getting that they handle like crap? The slalom is just slightly slower than the Viper and only the S2000 beats it in the honda line. That according to R&T. They do sorta feel like they are tipping when braking in a sharp turn but the numbers don't lie.

2004's have an LSD

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I really feel like a dumbass now. So wha the fucks in my mazda. I must be wrong.

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mazda = ford

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i dont know if wrx's handle like ass because i've never personally driven one, but an evo handles pretty damn well in my book. =)

I would just get the wrx because of the AWD and having boost and AWD is a plus plus in my book even though the NEON is probably the better bang for the buck type of a car. Besides, its still a fucken neon... I just dont like they way they feel inside I guess... If I had a choice I'd get the EVO or STi over the regular WRX but its alot more money...

Dont listen to us, just drive them both and make sure you go out to places where you can rape the bitches and then decide on your own. make sure you post up pics after you've done the deed.

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I wouldn't feel like "that", not everyone has as much usless information stored in their head as I do.

Mazda has been using Ford motors for quite a few years - I'm pretty sure the probe and 626 use a MAzda 4cyl. unless it is a V-6 (that is the 3.0 l motor that is in the taurus. ranger, etc.)

I have driven a few of them - Personaly I wouldn't buy one nor would I spend over $15,000 for a car. For now I'm into the low budget thing. But I can understand getting tired of the breakdowns ETC. $20,000 is $20,000 there are people out there that are putting out close to 300 WHP with Stock internals on a 1st gen Neon.

I have a 99 neon R/T - I get no respect - most people hate it - it's only a neon - blah blah blah - There is something cool about being the underdog!

I just bought a 1985 Dodge Shelby charger 148 HP and 178tq of Turbocharged Madness. the car is only 2200lbs though. Still lots of upgrades available! 7psi now soon to be 18psi!
$400 bucks! I couldn't pass up a factory turbo car for $400

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the mx6 v6 uses ford engines too. :shrug:

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Actually the a420 / 420a is a mitsubishi designed engine for Dodge, The Neon never had the 420's they only had the S4RE, S4RE Magnum, D4RE, and A853 in the SRT4. The 420 flows in a oppisite direction than the neon engines, different head design and is nothing like Dodge designed engines.

Mopar fact :P

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<--- cools jeff off

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Nope dodge motor designed for Mitsubishi - Lotus designed the head - Chrysler symbol is everywhere on the block.

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/2dohc.html

"The Neon, Dodge Avenger, and Chrysler Sebring feature (as base engine on the Avenger/Sebring and optional engine on the Neon through 1999) a new Chrysler-designed double overhead camshaft (DOHC) four-cylinder engine that is compact and light weight. Displacement is 1996 cm(cubed) (121.8 in(cubed)). "

"Another neat bit about the engine.. it's one of the first engines that's produced in America to be used in a Japanese vehicle [in DOHC form]." This from the SOHC page.

Thought this was interesting too.

"As for the engine.. stock it can hold about 330hp at the crank.. the rods start to stretch at this point.. with rod and piston replacement.. some people are getting 600+hp out of the engine.. stock head (no porting) stock cams.. stock crank, mls head gasket... pretty impressive if you ask me"

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That info is correct, however the 420a never came in a neon period. All that info you have provided is reguarding the S4RE, S4RE Magnum, D4RE.

Neon 4cyls and Mitsu Eclipse 95-99 engines are NOT the same,

JEff

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No, not configuration wise. The head is reversed(exhaust in the front for the Eclipse,Talon,Avenger Blocks are swappable. but the pistons have to go in backwards because of the valve relief. The head is a different casting because of the way the waterneck from the radiator still has to go in the front. There seems to be a problem with the water and oil passages too but the same manifolds fit. made in the same plant.

On the other hand i know almost nothing about Honda engines. Except what i have learned here! Half of my family works for Honda in Marysville, OH.

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thanks for the replies, i see that the neon and WRX both have the same ratings in reliability, but im wondering what will hold its value longer. (incase i ever need to sell it) I know neons are known for depreciating in value and subaru's aren't. but The neon has a reputation of being very easy to mod and make great power gains but... ITS A ------ NEON! :-\
But thanks for the replies! im gonna go drive them tommarow and see.

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I already know all of this infomation, the point was you said "Even the motor in the NA eclipse from 95-99 is a dodge motor not Mitsu" It is in the aspect of it not being a mitsu 4g63 DSM setup like we are all use to. The 420a engine was designed by mitsu for Chrysler with all mainly Chrylser parts.

We always use to call the 2g DSM's with the 420's Dodgibishis, because it shared both parts. The 420a was built in america, and yes just like all DSM's were assembled in Chrysler plants. Keep in mind Chrylser and Mitsu use to be very close and shared tons of parts during the Diamond Star partnership.

As far as mitsubishi and how they stand now, I wouldnt be suprised if they went out of business in the next few years. DaimlerChrysler refused to give mitsu anymore money and they are already 1.2 billion in debt. Mitsu tokyo is their only hope.

I use to work at a mitsu dealership =)


Jeff

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I remember reading up about the mistu ---- about to go under.

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so back to the subject, I would love to have a neon SRT-4. I test drove one and was throughly impressed. from what i am understanding with motor trend, the 2005 version will have LSD, and a few factory performance options such as cams, and a water sprayer for the intercooler, and a better exhaust system.

now about the mitsu's. the new evo will be priced at a base of 26,700- so for about 7K more, you can have an evo. if I cant afford a evo, i will sersiouly consider a SRT-4. although by the time I will be able to afford a new car, will probably be another 2 years :( so by then I will probably be able to pick up an evo for like 15 grand or smoething.

also there is an EVO MR comming out. a 100% factory race car, equipped with an aluminum roof, and the MR stands for "mistu racing" you can read for yourself. I am speachless...I want one. bad.
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...3/page006.html and for people who said mitsu is going bankrupt, i dont think so.....

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this is just one of the many topics i see coming back from the dead that just won't die. we can argue all day about srt-4. the same goes for politics and imports vs domestics :-\

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Well, enough arguments please.

Quote by Rodney King, 1992:
"Couldn't we all just get along?"

BTW, Honda loyalist here...

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I thought it was "Can't we all just get along?"

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We will not get the evo mr its japanese only and the 2004 srt4 had a lsd and also available was the water sprayer and switch for boost levels it was called the stage2 turbo toys you can buy them at any dodge dealer ;)

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Accually from what I'm being told, with approved credit, you can put your name on a list to get one when they come in at the Mitsu dealer out here.

also, there are a ---- load of options you can get from any dealer, that also would be included with any sticker price of almost any car. sway bars, stiffer suspensions,even a sun roof in considered a performance option on some cars because of the extra top weight it adds, etc....
so what is really your point...