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Goes up and trys to get a cat off the top of pole and gets lit up... what was he thinking? Even if i had rubber gloves and sleeves on i wouldnt have gone up into that unless i was in my insulated bucket, this guy was on his aluminum ladder :X
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/143004/electric_cat/

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hahaha... owned.

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hahahahah, i love how they add the cat meow to the video when the cat falls

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poor cat

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probly a volunteer. no ------- way i'd do that. i let that mother fucker fry or call the power company :6

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this vid was funnier

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/262498/the_internet_porn/

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^^^ :l

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Firefighter wasnt a smart one...

^ OMG :l :l :l

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kinda neat how the cat glowed like a lightning bug

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Should just left the ------- cat there, and I think I actually saw the second one on tv before.

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Yah 12kV, I'm surprised he wasn't so much fried meat. Probably dropped a lot of load arcing from truck to ground.

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Probably dropped a load in his pants too.

At least, that's what I hear happens when they give you the chair :l :l :l

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when they execute people they give them 2kv. Ive gloved 13.2kv

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An electrician at Eaton was told the power was shut off on a 4kV transformer, go fix it. He whips out his meter to check for voltage anyway, like electricians are, even though his meter only reads to 600V... he gets one lead on the transformer, which has a huge storage capacitor built in that Eaton was too much of a bag of dicks to get him a spec sheet on, and the lead burned up in his hand and the meter blew up in his face. He lived, but he was fucked up and burned pretty bad for a while.

PS - when you say "gloved" I get mental images of running for life from hotrex. Chill out with that ----, okay?

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As an Electrician thats all I read before comcludeing that said "Electrician" is a ------- idiot and deserved what ever came after.
Working on live power is for dip shits.If I cant turn it off, I aint touching it.I'll be dammed if I'm dieing at work :X.

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pretty much alot of the stuff i work on is still energized, or we still treat it as if it were if we dont have the line tested and grounded, work safe or not at all... We also have the tools and protective equipment to do this safely. Ive heard of scenarios like that where guys were testing transformers in the air then had the genious idea to touch one of the leads to the primary bushing with 7160v on it. It usually resulted in a fireball and a very small pile of charred remains of what used to be a voltmeter with some 2nd and 3rd degree burns to the dumbass that tried to measure high voltage with it.

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After getting blown out of a switch panel by 440v 3 phase, I won't mess with anything higher than 24v control voltage.

I was zapped thru both hands, across the chest, ONLY reason I lived, I was on a ladder and fell away.

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Voltage isnt going to hurt you, Amperage will, 10mA can kill a person. You can also have voltage through a circuit without amperage, just not the other way around. You can die working on your cars 12 circuits, just not as likely because DC isnt as harmfull to us as AC.

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yeah, 200 amp sevice, a little more than 10 mA.......

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no you can't. DC is more harmful than AC. You need voltage to build up current.

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DC=Direct current.
AC=Alternating current.Wich do you think in most harmful? ::).Do some research.

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dc's known as the death current. how is ac more harmfull?

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I met alot of old Navy electricians back in San Diego.Most of them were missing an appendage or had gory stories about somebody they knew exploding while getting hit with DC on a ship. :-X :-X.AC will throw you back.DC will hold you untill you are no more.

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Caveman says the same thing. I think he was bit by 177VAC lighting system and fell 20 feet onto some sand bags and was okay, continued to work with 240-480 for a couple years, but the latest job he deals with 24VDC control for ultra-modern HVAC (they have a guy come in with a laptop and tune the airflows and allowable temp adjustments and stuffs, just like some tuenarboi scum you know tune cars) and he says hes never going back.


PS it does take voltage hand in hand with a more or less resistive path to create current. All this "its amps not volts" stuff is utter bullshit; it is all interconnected and inseperable just like you have to have cock AND balls to be a man. Volts is the pressure in the garden hose, current is the hose diameter, and its the wierdest garden hose ever because depending on resistance pressure and diameter are all over the place like a Salvador Dali painting - one that you can place over a piece of graph paper, or plug into a formula.

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AC is more harmfull.

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Just because? lol

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::)

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This isn't Honda Tech........

I guess your saying lightning (DC) is harmless?

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ac's more harmfull because you have to touch both +/- sides insted of just being neer something power can ground on :1

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really?????

go grab a white or black (only one) and touch "earth" like a water pipe, tell me whats happens :)

green wire = earth

don't piss yourself when you get zapped.

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never done that, but i've had the full effect 110 and no pee :)

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No i'm not saying lightning is harmless, If all things were equal AC would do more damage than DC that is if the frequency of the AC is 60 Hertz, which is the frequency of AC supplied by electric utilities to your home. DC is generally low voltage (24v or less) where as AC is generally 120 or higher.

That is not why, I dont know where you get your information.

Wow you know what AC and DC stands for you must have been reasearching all day. With DC, current flows one way through the conductor from (-) to (+) that is all, with AC current flows both ways, back and forth FAST, the speed at which it moves back and forth is measured called its frequency measured in Herz, in your home electricity moves back and forth through the circuit's 60 times a second or 60 Herz, ironically this frequency has been found to be the most dangerous to our body. AC is much more brutal to our tissues, in a study of over 300 cases of electrical deaths over 3/4 of them were from AC, and on the average had 40% more burn dammage.

Most of your information is very interesting and I like learning from you, but you have it wrong by saying its "utter bullshit" You can have electromotive force (voltage) present without current, and you could grab on part of a circuit flowing 500v all day if you wanted to as long as there was no amperage going through it. Amperage cannot be present without voltage.

WTF? voltage doesnt create current, it gives it its push through a conductor.

Actually AC is known as the death current, if you have any arguments with that you can ask Thomas Edison, as he is the one who said so.

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EMF is not voltage.

No, as long as you provided no path to ground, or as long as the voltage source is a piss poor current source.

V=IR shows the interconnectedness of voltage, amperage, resistance. Or, V=I/G if you wish it in terms of conductance. Play around with simple algebra and see what you can deduce of the world around you.

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aah yes, ohms law, generally speaking you are correct. Although it is still possible to have voltage withou current.

correct, according to ohms law, figure that one out.

Yeah, I "Play" around with this simple algebra and mostly dc circuits everyday, its quite interesting actually.

You are right/wrong, I made a typo I ment electromotive force, and yes electromotive force is measured in volts.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromotive_force

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First of it doesnt move back and forth.It moves up and down in a wave motion.Second its HERTZ.And it vary s from 60-50.This affects motor drive more than light bulbs and non motor driven appliances.

I bet most of those deaths were coused by high voltage AC.Why does AC kill more people annually than DC?Because DC is less commonly used in every day life.That was a nice biased fact you found. ::)


How can voltage be present in a system with no amperage.Please give me a scenario relevant to that claim. :S
Even static electricity measures a few milli amps.I have never come across that scenario with your explanation before.If there is voltage present and there is a discharge(usage there of), that discharge or consumption of electricity will be measured in amps.No matter how small, it will be measured in amps.The electrical discharge of your brain can be measured in amps.

As far as the Thomas Edison comment, yes he invented batteries.They were static derived though.This was achieved by strapping a metal rod on the end of a glass bottle and spinning a leather wheel against the tip of the metal rod creating and gathering the static electricity.The metal rod would store it inside the bottle creating a battery.He was even knocked unconciouse by a series of those batteries a couple of times......---- Im not going to explain this to you...you need to read about T.E a little more.

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yeah ur right, I was just giving a general explanation of AC, the last time I used an oscilloscope was well....about 3 hrs ago. and sorry hertz wow.

The study said nothing about the voltage levels so it may not be acurate i'll give you that.

If you would like I can put together a circuit tomorrow, take pics of the meter and prove it. Yeah there may be a few mA but it is still possible to have high voltage with VERY little to no current if you want to get all technical.

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Technical?hahahahaha.And guess what?That meter you will put on that circuit with no amperage will consume electricity proving that there IS amperage present,driveing eather the needle or the light on your meter.Electricity comsumtion is measured in kw,kva,and guess what amps and any fraction there of.

1/1000(milli amp) of an amp=voltage present.So your theory that you can have voltage present with no amperage is busted. :-*

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Yeah not enough to kill a person, btw my digital meters do not take the current from the circuit to power on the display.

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You have current as soon as you provide yourself as a load for it to drop across. My point stands.

Electromotive is not magnetic, so I am wholly right. ::)

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dc is more dangerous simply by the fact that if you get some dc current flowing throught you you tend to clamp on to it and fry. That is very dangerous even at a "low" voltage. They say that of all the electrocutions and accidents that the most people are killed by 277v. If you have no current flowing through you then you will not be shocked or electrocuted. That is how birds land on live lines and dont get smoked, no path to ground or difference in potential. This is also how guys do work BAREHANDED on 765000v energized transmission lines.