Whos your college teams?
we made it to the first round of the NCAA tournament last year :P
10-15-2007, 12:49 PM
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our recruiting class this year is kicking ***. Maryland should go pretty far. between boom osby, vasquez, gist, and the new freshmen we should hold it down pretty hard.
On a side note our coach williams drove a gallardo into the bball stadium 2 nights ago for opening night. it was tough as ----. he makes 2.3 mill a year, i would hope hes got some nice rides
On a side note our coach williams drove a gallardo into the bball stadium 2 nights ago for opening night. it was tough as ----. he makes 2.3 mill a year, i would hope hes got some nice rides
10-15-2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdmanMD
our recruiting class this year is kicking ***. Maryland should go pretty far. between boom osby, vasquez, gist, and the new freshmen we should hold it down pretty hard.
On a side note our coach williams drove a gallardo into the bball stadium 2 nights ago for opening night. it was tough as ----. he makes 2.3 mill a year, i would hope hes got some nice rides
On a side note our coach williams drove a gallardo into the bball stadium 2 nights ago for opening night. it was tough as ----. he makes 2.3 mill a year, i would hope hes got some nice rides
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"None of 1997-2000 recruits got degree within six years
By Childs Walker and Heather A. Dinich | Sun reporters
October 4, 2007
The University of Maryland men's basketball team was the only one in the country that failed to graduate within six years any of its recruits who entered school between 1997 and 2000, NCAA statistics released yesterday showed.
The program's graduation success rate, calculated by an NCAA formula, fell for the third straight year at a time when graduation rates are rising nationally for men's basketball programs. The GSR shows that none of the starters and top reserves of Maryland's 2002 national championship team graduated within six years of entering school.
"They had a lot of on-court success, but we would've liked more off-court success," said Anton Goff, associate athletic director for academic support and career development. "For some reason or other, that didn't happen as far as graduation rates are concerned. We can't change the number now. We're not happy about it, but it was 10 years ago."
Graduation rates
Graduation success rates represent the percentage of the freshman classes from 1997 to 2000 that graduated within six years of entry.
"These people are very successful people," Maryland coach Gary Williams said. "If you go to school to improve yourself economically, where have they failed? They make more than the average college graduate. Far more. If you're judging them just based on getting a degree, then OK, they haven't gotten a degree."
Yesterday's report featured positive news for the Maryland football program, which improved its GSR to 69 percent, from 64 percent the previous year. For the second straight year, that number ranks eighth among 12 Atlantic Coast Conference schools, though it's higher than the 64.7 percent national average for football.
"Tough school," coach Ralph Friedgen said when asked about the scores. "I'm doing the best I can, that's all I can do. The guys that stick around, they graduate. Guys that don't stick around, don't graduate."
In a news release addressing the statistics, Maryland noted that all 10 of the freshmen and transfer basketball players measurable by the GSR left school to pursue professional careers.
That list includes Chris Wilcox, who left school early to enter the NBA draft. It also includes Juan Dixon, Lonny Baxter, Steve Blake, Terrence Morris, Tahj Holden and Drew Nicholas, who played four years at Maryland and went on to play in the NBA or overseas.
Byron Mouton, Jamar Smith and Ryan Randle transferred into the program and played two seasons each at Maryland before playing in various pro leagues.
The GSR should not be confused with the academic progress rate, or APR, a current semester-by-semester snapshot of academic eligibility, graduation and retention. Maryland could lose two basketball scholarships if its APR score, expected to be released in May, does not improve from this year's mark.
The school faces no potential penalties because of the GSR data released yesterday.
Goff said the GSR score doesn't reflect the current state of the program. "You're looking a while back," he said. "Three of five scholarship players graduated last year, but we won't see that for awhile. Our progress now gets reported later on."
The basketball program also ranked last in the ACC last year with an 18 percent GSR.
Goff said that one of the 10 players measured by this year's GSR graduated after the six-year window and that two other players transferred and graduated from other schools. He said some players measured by the GSR are still working toward degrees.
"We encourage our players to come back," Williams said. "I've had 42 players graduate in my 18 years of coaching, and probably nine or 10 of them don't count in any NCAA formula because they didn't graduate in the period by the NCAA."
Last year, four of the six Maryland seniors graduated, and both current seniors on the roster are on pace to graduate in four years, Williams said.
The GSR will rise above zero next year because at least one player graduated from the next class measured, Goff said.
Basketball scores can change more quickly than football scores because the sport features so many fewer players.
The latest GSR figures show that 77 percent of student-athletes who began college from 1997-2000 graduated within six years, similar to the data released last year.
NCAA officials were pleased with the overall progress of men's basketball, where the success rate rose from 55.8 percent in 1995 to 63.6 percent in 2000. Football increased from 63.1 percent to 66.6 percent for teams competing for Division I bowl bids between 1995 and 2000.
"Overall, the trend data is up and it's very heartening," said the NCAA's president, Myles Brand.
Brand said in a conference call that he hopes every NCAA program will eventually clear 60 percent. Among Maryland teams, only the baseball, men's tennis and men's basketball programs failed to meet that mark. The women's soccer, golf and gymnastics programs all achieved 100 percent scores.
childs.walker@baltsun.com heather.dinich@baltsun.com Sun reporters Kevin Van Valkenburg and Damon Curry contributed to this article. "
By Childs Walker and Heather A. Dinich | Sun reporters
October 4, 2007
The University of Maryland men's basketball team was the only one in the country that failed to graduate within six years any of its recruits who entered school between 1997 and 2000, NCAA statistics released yesterday showed.
The program's graduation success rate, calculated by an NCAA formula, fell for the third straight year at a time when graduation rates are rising nationally for men's basketball programs. The GSR shows that none of the starters and top reserves of Maryland's 2002 national championship team graduated within six years of entering school.
"They had a lot of on-court success, but we would've liked more off-court success," said Anton Goff, associate athletic director for academic support and career development. "For some reason or other, that didn't happen as far as graduation rates are concerned. We can't change the number now. We're not happy about it, but it was 10 years ago."
Graduation rates
Graduation success rates represent the percentage of the freshman classes from 1997 to 2000 that graduated within six years of entry.
"These people are very successful people," Maryland coach Gary Williams said. "If you go to school to improve yourself economically, where have they failed? They make more than the average college graduate. Far more. If you're judging them just based on getting a degree, then OK, they haven't gotten a degree."
Yesterday's report featured positive news for the Maryland football program, which improved its GSR to 69 percent, from 64 percent the previous year. For the second straight year, that number ranks eighth among 12 Atlantic Coast Conference schools, though it's higher than the 64.7 percent national average for football.
"Tough school," coach Ralph Friedgen said when asked about the scores. "I'm doing the best I can, that's all I can do. The guys that stick around, they graduate. Guys that don't stick around, don't graduate."
In a news release addressing the statistics, Maryland noted that all 10 of the freshmen and transfer basketball players measurable by the GSR left school to pursue professional careers.
That list includes Chris Wilcox, who left school early to enter the NBA draft. It also includes Juan Dixon, Lonny Baxter, Steve Blake, Terrence Morris, Tahj Holden and Drew Nicholas, who played four years at Maryland and went on to play in the NBA or overseas.
Byron Mouton, Jamar Smith and Ryan Randle transferred into the program and played two seasons each at Maryland before playing in various pro leagues.
The GSR should not be confused with the academic progress rate, or APR, a current semester-by-semester snapshot of academic eligibility, graduation and retention. Maryland could lose two basketball scholarships if its APR score, expected to be released in May, does not improve from this year's mark.
The school faces no potential penalties because of the GSR data released yesterday.
Goff said the GSR score doesn't reflect the current state of the program. "You're looking a while back," he said. "Three of five scholarship players graduated last year, but we won't see that for awhile. Our progress now gets reported later on."
The basketball program also ranked last in the ACC last year with an 18 percent GSR.
Goff said that one of the 10 players measured by this year's GSR graduated after the six-year window and that two other players transferred and graduated from other schools. He said some players measured by the GSR are still working toward degrees.
"We encourage our players to come back," Williams said. "I've had 42 players graduate in my 18 years of coaching, and probably nine or 10 of them don't count in any NCAA formula because they didn't graduate in the period by the NCAA."
Last year, four of the six Maryland seniors graduated, and both current seniors on the roster are on pace to graduate in four years, Williams said.
The GSR will rise above zero next year because at least one player graduated from the next class measured, Goff said.
Basketball scores can change more quickly than football scores because the sport features so many fewer players.
The latest GSR figures show that 77 percent of student-athletes who began college from 1997-2000 graduated within six years, similar to the data released last year.
NCAA officials were pleased with the overall progress of men's basketball, where the success rate rose from 55.8 percent in 1995 to 63.6 percent in 2000. Football increased from 63.1 percent to 66.6 percent for teams competing for Division I bowl bids between 1995 and 2000.
"Overall, the trend data is up and it's very heartening," said the NCAA's president, Myles Brand.
Brand said in a conference call that he hopes every NCAA program will eventually clear 60 percent. Among Maryland teams, only the baseball, men's tennis and men's basketball programs failed to meet that mark. The women's soccer, golf and gymnastics programs all achieved 100 percent scores.
childs.walker@baltsun.com heather.dinich@baltsun.com Sun reporters Kevin Van Valkenburg and Damon Curry contributed to this article. "
10-15-2007, 03:54 PM
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who the ---- gives a ---- about graduation rate? They are either good enough to go to the NBA or they drop out after failing at NCAA ball. Would you rather it be another program that coddles and hand-feeds its players and gives them a bullshit degree just for showing up? They have success on the court and field, which is where we are talking about them. Thats like saying your honda is better because it gets better mileage even though the other car is faster.
10-15-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdmanMD
who the ---- gives a ---- about graduation rate? They are either good enough to go to the NBA or they drop out after failing at NCAA ball. Would you rather it be another program that coddles and hand-feeds its players and gives them a bullshit degree just for showing up? They have success on the court and field, which is where we are talking about them. Thats like saying your honda is better because it gets better mileage even though the other car is faster.
the point i am making is that U of MD only recruited kids that they thought would win them a national championship (and them dumped them by the wayside after doing so).
and who are you to say that these kids that didnt graduate didnt get "special classes" that allowed them to be academically eligable?
PS, none of your 2000 national championship team was "nba worthy", thus only solidifing my statement that your coach only wants people that can play ball rather than setting them up for a future with schooling and something to fall back on when the nba doesnt come knocking.
Im sorry if I look so highly at graduation rates, Bobby Knight is a coach that preaches about graduation and getting kids a career in something other than basketball, and the philosphy still rings true for the IU Hoosier faithful.
10-15-2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfek360
i'm not a big basketball fan, but washington state is my team, when their good...lolz....they'll be good again this year, should make the sweet 16
UW will own this year.
But basketball is gay.
Can't believe UW only lost to USC by 3 points.
At least UW is not at the complete bottom of Pac10 this year :1
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