Econo-Box

okay, I'll bite. I wanna hear some opinions on it because it is a crazy *** system. quoted from wiki

That ---- is fucked up. but it saved us from having Al gore at the helm right lol.

J-SMITH69

there are a lot more "normal" people than you think. they just aren't vocal...

the electorial college is great idea, because it makes each state have a say, if it were simply popular vote, california could decide the election by itself, we'd already be europe...

Econo-Box

good point with that last part.

bigdaddyvtec

LMAO... No republican that is presented thus far will get my vote. Period.... Bring ronny back!!!! LOL.

J-SMITH69

do you know what they all stand for or just the R next to their name?

delicatessen

The elite aren't for the people because they aren't of the people. The people are merely cannon fodder to be manipulated and deceived while you orchestrate the eventual turmoil and downfall of their sovereignty so you won't have to hear about them constantly complaining about freedom as it is outlined on a God-damned piece of paper. Even if Paul doesn't get in, I think people are finally seeing how much control is enacted through the media and are just about ------- sick and tired of it. At least this is what I can hope.

Ron Paul FTW.

If you haven't seen this you should.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zXIufIXPsYs&feature=bz301

J-SMITH69

do you want to ban all free press? what do you want to do? people report or make up news and people watch it isn't that 1st amendment?

delicatessen

Just because somebody's feeding you a lie doesn't mean you're obligated to swallow it. Sure, they can say what they want. But they've got ulterior motives and it's the prerogative of the citizen to hold the corporation accountable. Things as simple as not watching their station and telling others not to. If somebody espouses to be fair and balanced but then proceed to ban a candidate who's raised more money than all the others in the last quarter people will see that something's seriously fucked up and that organization, person, company etc will lose credibility until they don't have the same sphere of influence as they once did. Pretty much it all boils down to don't be a pushover and think for yourself. It's like the credit card companies. Yes they can send me 10 pre-approved applications a week but I have every right to shred each one without opening the envelope.

J-SMITH69

ok, i agree with you.

i dont think anyone should be excluded from the debates, paul might have raised a lot of money, but he doesn't have the support in #s of the other candidates

delicatessen

I'm fairly cautious about what the other candidates say because it seems like most of them, once they get a shot at president, start saying things that don't line up with what they've been doing in office for the last several years. It's simple, say one thing, get elected, do the other thing. Happens all the time. Look at Paul's recored. You can look straight at it and he's principled. There's no skeletons, no campaign fraud, he doesn't do the politician thing to sap the benefits. "He has never voted to raise congressional pay. He has never taken a government-paid junket. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch. He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year." Most of the other candidates would only continue the direction we're heading. Talk a good game and make people think you're much more different than the rest. We're going to implode and through the Hegelian Dialectic they will use chaos to usher in the type of control over society I am going to fight while I still can.