Wheel spin effect on ET and 60ft times.
 

Was having a debate today while we where out shoping for new mag wheels and rubebrs for the car.
We went up to the largest rubbers suported on the factory rims. And have realised the only way forward to better rubbers is to change the wheels.

The argument is wether wheel spin is good or bad for yoru quater mile times.
The options where

1. Car shuold have no wheel spin for best launch
2. Car should have some wheel spin at launch or it will stall / fall on its face.

Which argument is right.

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I think they both sound like valid arguments, i mean obviously if you have no wheel spin all the power is being transfered into forward motion. letting it spin so it won't stall has to do with momentum in the drivetrain, ie flywheel specifically. If you run a light flywheel you will either bog or smoke the tires, a heavier flywheel will help launches because if you rev it up and dump the clutch the spinning drivetrain carries more inertia with it and will be harder to slow down and making it less prone to bogging and thus easier to launch.

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people run slicks to eliminate wheelspin. wheelspin is the best way to kill your 60 ft time subsequently killing your run.

if your car falls on its face with no wheelspin, you shouldnt even be racing it. cause its probably a hyundai elantra riced the ---- out....

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If you launched on street tires or slicks with zero wheel spin, you would be more likely to bog off the line. Some wheel spin is neccessarry.

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I get great launches and I merely chirp the tires. I suppose that's the beauty of AWD!

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a small amount of wheelspin is needed, a very small amount just to prevent bog,

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dunno about that, guess it depends on the car and how much power it has

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are you tlaking abotu the majoirty of honduhs? no torque?

if you use slicks, and they hook and you bog dont expect your car to be a drag car.

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When I raced na I needed some wheel spin, I was using hankook ventus tires :P
I used the same tires last time I went to the track and I had to do 1500 rpm drops and they still spun like crazy which gave me terrible 60ft times so I guess the wheel spin issue depends on power of the car.

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You'll run faster slipping the clutch instead of wheelspin. Use the clutch to control bog/power delivery.

Not that I cut 1.75" 60ft's all day or anything on my 195 wide all season street tires, so probably disregard my opinion on this subject.

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wheel spin at launch is needed for tires to obtain MAX grip..........

Controlling it is the hard part!!!!!!

10% slip angle is about perfect, depending on the compund of the tire/slick......

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ALLLLL DAAAAY

my favorite ricer phrase.

blah blah all day long!!!!

i pulled a 5.3 330 foot on street tires what now! 8)

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Stock I could rev to 3000 and dump it then slam it and it would seem to be perfect. A lil spin, no bog, straight forward. I have boost now, but with the stock clutch so no dumps quite yet. If it's N/A at 3000 anyway why should I have to change anything? I should just watch as soon as it hits boost I'll be back to spinning, huh?

SkinnyE. I have the Ventus HRII right now. How did they hold for you at the track or racing at all?


JP

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in my teg, id try and pull a good launch.

i'd bog off the line, then boost would hit and id spin 1st and shift to 2nd, then start spinning 2nd... shitty times all the way

one tire fire, skinny tires.

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You should stop trying to hate on the truth. You know why I say all day? Because I can open a drawer and pull out 100 timeslips all with the same result.

Now go back to riding sack and stfu.

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confirmed, i've seen him run at the track and seen his timeslips.
heh kinda helps he's AWD tho ;)

if i could get no tire spin, i'd love it..
i launch at 6500 rpm in my hatch.. on 22" drag slicks.. i just heat them up nice and good and let them do their job.. thats all i can ask

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like i give a ---- if he can or not

im just saying the "all day" or "all day long" phrase is a ricers favorite saying.

whats your 330 time and typical 1/8 mile

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they held great for na, and they do good on the street, maybe it was the fact that it was over 90degrees the last time I went to the track and went to a track known for be slippery, its nickname is the slippery rock. I did'nt really slip the clutch since it was stock maybe next time I'll try slipping it since I got a 6 puck I'm putting in the end of this week. Anybody got any more tips to lower your 60ft times

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Whatever, backpeddle all you want. But your barking up the wrong tree.

Typical 8th mile right now is a 8.3 @ 85mph

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if your car was just fwd you wouldnt be cuttin those times ;D

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those times aren't even all that hot......with my old GVR4, i did about the same 1/8 time will less mph.

ahh well, trolling happens

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Now thats what ricers say.

Losers are losers :) Isn't my fault you have inferior technology. :-X

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wtf are you talking about back pedalling i said all day long is a ricer phrase.

8.3 is a shitty 1/8 time. i ran 8.3 on street tires with a 2.4 60 foot @ 5 pounds

inferior engine 2 litres is not enough 8)

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Did this turn into an anti-DSM thread or sumthin?

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This is not an Anti-DSM thread. We all know that AWD cars will pretty much destroy any front driver on the street from a standing start.
Johnny just has a deep hatred for ricers, and apparently "All day long" pushes his ricer button.

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Alrighty then. Well before I had awd, i had a fwd(1 wheel drive) eclipse. Spinning the tires would kill me. Slipping the clutch was the best way to get a decent launch. Also not flooring it in first gear because with the quick spool up of the turbo, the wheels would break lose in first pretty easy. So first gear was basically just slipping the clutch, and then holding the pedal at like 3/4 throttle through the entire gear. That got me the best results, but it got annoying so now I stick to AWD.

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i dont have a deep hatred for ricers if you go acrossed the interweb on all car forums "all day long" is in almost every thread

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all day 8)

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allll day long!!!!!

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koby, noone gives a ---- about your 1/8 mile time. im on johnnys side.

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your on johnny's side all day long

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4nog63 for life nukka!!!

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u sure this didn't turn into an anit-DSM thread??? What part of 4G63's don't you like?

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hahaha, just fishing for some DSM love. Didnt take long to get a bite O0

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The number 3 always pissed me off for some reason.

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ya me too, that's why ya lose the 3, and swap in the 4G64!!

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the G pissed me off, it should've been OG.

what part pisses me off?
well i just drank that engine's size inwhiskey

if i can drink the engine size in whiskey and notdie ist to small

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step up to some REAL whiskey then.........because if you drank a 2 liter of the real stuff, AND kept it down, you'd die from alky poisoning.

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not from noon till now

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side stepping the clutch at rev limiter with large slicks will get you your best 60ft. No bog, no slip, my best 60 ft was a 1.7 and beau gets lots of 1.6's

and fact 94% of dsm owners eat cock.