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Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

maybe this should be moved to hybrid/tech section.

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

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Originally Posted by d112crzy

I know.

but i dont think he's gona go through all that trouble just so he can rev higher. especially since he's trying to go hmt style.

and i dont know who chad is.

Its cool man, Im nopt trying to be a dick... I was so so so happy with my setup.... I have been a true believer in the f as well... Its truly one of the most underestimated as far as potential. In my opinion, There is not a better honda motr stock to boost that can be had for the price.... If only they would have come with forged pistons!!!! WOW!!!!

LOL

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec

its cool man.

but yea, i agree with you. I love this engine platform, and do wish it came with forged internals.

Im currently working on f22a6 swap into an cx hatch.

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

Damn howd I let this tread buy....

I just picked up a prelude in the spring, and have been, "collecting" F engines for an upcoming build next year. The BEST thing I love about these engines is that they are CHEAP. I just bought a complete F22 for 60$ from a kid who did an H22 swap. Noone wants these engines, and its really fun to find deals on them.

I myself am just trying to learn a bit more about the engine, but from what Ive seen by taking mine apart, I like it. Like a D block only bigger, with larger ports and intake mainifolds, and way better torque numbers. Im in the process of turboing the prelude's motor and its damn nice for a budget setup since you dont have to make a manifold for it [mitsu mani]. But next year Im going to build one f the blocks Ive got for a Holset setup....

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

Allright since I killed this thread....I'll drop a question

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With the F....you dont really have to sleeve ----... just put in forged pistons, and use the 50mm h crank with h rods....

Why the H crank, other then H rods are cheaper and easier to find....wouldnt this raise up your compression? It shortens the stroke length right...so is that what the purpose is...to keep the stroke shorter?

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

Bisi did it to destroke the motor allowing lower pistons speeds and higher rpms.

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

yea, on his 390whp NA beast.

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

I can see the need to rev high on an NA build, but I've never put much into the high RPM = high Power with a turbo build, is there an advantage to destroking a turbo build F22?

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

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Originally Posted by d112crzy

have you seen HondaFan81's red project over at cb7tuner? that's pretty much what he has and most likely puts down way more power than i have(i say most likely becuase i dont know how much i have)

his setup:
http://cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=24996

- F22a1 SOHC head & block
- 152 WHP @ 6600 rpm, 127 WTQ @ 5100 rpm (Mustang roller dyno)
- Powerband is from 4000 - 7000 rpm
- Hondata S200 dyno tuned, running with 87 octane pump gas
- Conservative tune for daily driver 12.2-12.4 AFR
- 26.5 mpg and 350 miles to the tank

Miscellaneous OEM Project-Install Parts >> INSTALLED
Bomz Short-ram Intake >> INSTALLED
Maxbore 67-64mm Taper H23 TB >> INSTALLED
Maxbore Port-matched H23 Plenum to TB >> INSTALLED
CHR H23 P&P Intake Manifold >> INSTALLED
CHR F22 Street P&P Head (stock valvetrain, new valve seals, 3-angle valve job) >> INSTALLED
Delta 272 Camshaft Regrind >> INSTALLED
Kamikaze 4-1 Header w/2.5" collector >> INSTALLED
2.5" Custom Exhaust >> INSTALLED
2.5" Catco High-flow Catalytic Converter >> INSTALLED
22" Magnaflow Resonator >> INSTALLED
OBX Dual-Tip Muffler >> INSTALLED
Accel 8mm Spark Plug Wires (red) >> INSTALLED
PST Front Motor Mount Insert >> INSTALLED
Poly-filled Remaining Motor Mounts >> INSTALLED
Ground Wire Kit >>

I've known 'Cisco for quite a long time and I've been following his N/A build up since '04 I think when I signed up on CB7tuner. I've seen both of his cars in person and raced both of them on the highway. I recently did a couple of small runs on the highway against his red car in my HF B16 CRX and the outcome was basically he would hang with me for a few seconds then I'd pull away from him on a run from 55mph or so.

If he had a different transmission in it the story might be different, but the 4th gear in a F22 transmission is like over drive. The Y1 transmission that I have gave me a huge advantage on the highway, but the initial torque and power of his engine was enough to stay with me until the top end of my B16 and the gearing of the Y1 transmission allowed me to pull away.

Can't wait to see how his white project turns out.

Re: Whats wrong with f-series?

hmm, sounds just like what some crx here with a b16 did to me.

Cisco needs to get to the track.