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Old 10-27-2006, 12:45 PM
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7k would be fine with me, thats all I rev my b18b to anyway so no difference there. And as far as bearings, if the mileage called for it a mild rebuild wouldn't be a big deal anyway, and would give the opportunity to throw in some arp rod bolts and headstuds. Ok another question-- would using the h 50mm crank destroke the f series, hence giving it higher compression and less displacement? I dunno if I would do that, especially if people are getting good results with the stock f crank. And the h22 head would prolly be an availability/cost decision -- if i found a good deal i'd go for it
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:49 PM
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the f22 mains are also 50mm. if you were to use f22 rods, you compression would drop to 8.5:1.

but if you used stock h22 rods, then you would run into valve to pistons clearance problems.

what would be the reason to swap that crank in? to simply rev higher? you would have to install some oil squirters, and ive heard its kinda hard to do that on f22's.
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:53 PM
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the f22 mains are also 50mm.
so no downfall to swapping an h crank-- you just get a better crank straight up? sorry for all the questions, i prolly should do some more research myself. I just think an f swap is pimp as ----, and uber HMT, as it is a cheaper alternative to get big displacement. hahahaha big for a honda anyway. Weird how we get so wrapped up in displacement differences from 1.5 to 1.6 to 1.8 to 2.0 and 2.2 to 2.3 lol the biggest difference is less .8 liters. But somehow still makes a crazy difference. weird.
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which h are you talking about? i know for a fact that it does NOT flow as well as the h22. the a6 flows the best out of all f22's. why do you think there is a huge hp gain when you swap on a dohc head? its certainly not because compression is raised(no head swap on an f block will raise compression unless it has been milled). it is because those heads flow better.
Im not gonna get int a debate about it.. The ports flow better. Period.. Ive talked to BISI about ity at lenghth. He has done extensive research (and testing) On a bench even. I take his word for it. Weve rapped in person, as well as on the phone for a while about it.... The ports flow better... The stock setup of a head does not dictate the true potential of its design
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Originally Posted by d112crzy
the f22 mains are also 50mm. if you were to use f22 rods, you compression would drop to 8.5:1.

but if you used stock h22 rods, then you would run into valve to pistons clearance problems.

what would be the reason to swap that crank in? to simply rev higher? you would have to install some oil squirters, and ive heard its kinda hard to do that on f22's.
Thats why You can use the H crank.... duh
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Maybe it is just me, but if I'm through all the trouble to be making power I'm just gonna go ahead and rebuild the thing anyways so I don't have to worry about bearings or rings etc.
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i edited my post. i added some more info and i think i answered your questions.
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by d112crzy
the f22 mains are also 50mm. if you were to use f22 rods, you compression would drop to 8.5:1.

but if you used stock h22 rods, then you would run into valve to pistons clearance problems.

what would be the reason to swap that crank in? to simply rev higher? you would have to install some oil squirters, and ive heard its kinda hard to do that on f22's.
You have to use custom pistons wioth the pins raised.... Weisco makes them for one...... Chad ran em in his 335 whp F22b1---with H rods and crank.
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Im not gonna get int a debate about it.. The ports flow better. Period.. Ive talked to BISI about ity at lenghth. He has done extensive research (and testing) On a bench even. I take his word for it. Weve rapped in person, as well as on the phone for a while about it.... The ports flow better... The stock setup of a head does not dictate the true potential of its design
oh no doubt the head has huge potential. im just comparing stock vs stock.

yes, the ports alone are better flowing than that of the h, you shoulda stated that when you said that. overall, it doesnt, not stock anyways.

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You have to use custom pistons wioth the pins raised.... Weisco makes them for one...... Chad ran em in his 335 whp F22b1---with H rods and crank.
I know.


but i dont think he's gona go through all that trouble just so he can rev higher. especially since he's trying to go hmt style.

and i dont know who chad is.
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